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Bad Beats & Dark Horses

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  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    waller02 said:

    Glenelg said:


    After a number of those all-ins, the player in question started to find calls and it turns out he was shoving extremely light (no great surprise). I was never in a position to catch him, however, and after a while he sat-out and remained away until blinded out - he had a 20+ bb stack at the time.

    Obviously, he had somewhere to be, hence the constant light shoves. And this was the most puzzling things of the entire evening. Where did he go? What was so important? He can't have a bedtime, he's over 18. He couldn't have a plane to catch, we are in lockdown.

    This will keep me up at night.

    In deepstacks you'll find peeps get bored/frustrated/annoyed. When reging they don't get the concept. Hence, shove, shove.....when they get ...

    Drunk and fell asleep
    Yes, I think you've cracked the case. If I remember rightly, it was during a break when he "left" the table. Very likely that he crashed out.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    I appears Friday/Saturday £1,000 Mega Stack is (understandably) off the schedule due to the Mini UKOPS.

    I hope this is only temporarily, otherwise this will be the shortest thread in history.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,030
    mushroom1 said:

    I appears Friday/Saturday £1,000 Mega Stack is (understandably) off the schedule due to the Mini UKOPS.

    I hope this is only temporarily, otherwise this will be the shortest thread in history.

    @mushroom1

    No, it's still there as far as I can see.

    Check

    THIS

  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    Tikay10 said:

    mushroom1 said:

    I appears Friday/Saturday £1,000 Mega Stack is (understandably) off the schedule due to the Mini UKOPS.

    I hope this is only temporarily, otherwise this will be the shortest thread in history.

    @mushroom1

    No, it's still there as far as I can see.

    Check

    THIS

    Cheers, Tikay, but that's the daily one? I play that as well, but, the thread was only for the £5.50 £1,000 GTD Mega at 20:25 every Friday and Saturday?

    I didn't want to pick a daily tournament as I probably wouldn't keep up to date on a thread.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,030

    @mushroom1

    Ahh, thought you were referring to the one at 8.45pm.

    Apologies, you are correct.
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,297
    mushroom1 said:

    Is the brilliant, but attention-warranting, Twelve Monkeys the ideal film to watch while playing more than one table, during a virus-based lockdown?

    contagion...much better >:)
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    I was just the very first player to be KO'd in the Mini UKOPS series - what do I win?
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    How best to describe play during a Mini UKOPS, in a lockdown, on pay-day (for most)?

    I've decided on "fruity", but am open to offers.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    mushroom1 said:

    How best to describe play during a Mini UKOPS, in a lockdown, on pay-day (for most)?

    I've decided on "fruity", but am open to offers.

    Translation: I've just been caught "at it".

  • gpc70gpc70 Member Posts: 1,997
    not like u at all
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    For the second time in three nights, I have been knocked out of the first Mini UKOPS in the very first hand.

    I must be doing this subconsciously on purpose.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2020
    The tournaments to which this thread is dedicated are off the schedule at the moment, so I thought I would, instead, just use this time to talk about some Mini UKOPS hands.

    I would really welcome any input.

    This first one was from the PLO8 last night, we were just in the money at this stage. I had around 33k.

    I was pretty certain this is a fold, but I've still got a former-era head on. Is this too tight for current year?
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    bigfatfishSmall blind1000.001000.0014569.64
    Dutyfree28Big blind2000.003000.0088625.02
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
    • A
    • 9
    jaw207Fold
    mushroom1Fold
    skunker25Fold
    bigfatfishCall1000.004000.0013569.64
    Dutyfree28Check
    Flop
    • 5
    • 3
    • 5
    bigfatfishBet2000.006000.0011569.64
    Dutyfree28Call2000.008000.0086625.02
    Turn
    • 4
    bigfatfishBet8000.0016000.003569.64
    Dutyfree28Fold
    bigfatfishMuck
    bigfatfishWin8000.0011569.64
    bigfatfishReturn8000.000.0019569.64
  • Sunday8pmSunday8pm Member Posts: 58
    mushroom1 said:

    The tournaments to which this thread is dedicated are off the schedule at the moment, so I thought I would, instead, just use this time to talk about some Mini UKOPS hands.

    I would really welcome any input.

    This first one was from the PLO8 last night, we were just in the money at this stage. I had around 33k.

    I was pretty certain this is a fold, but I've still got a former-era head on. Is this too tight for current year?

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    bigfatfishSmall blind1000.001000.0014569.64
    Dutyfree28Big blind2000.003000.0088625.02
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
    • A
    • 9
    jaw207Fold
    mushroom1Fold
    skunker25Fold
    bigfatfishCall1000.004000.0013569.64
    Dutyfree28Check
    Flop
    • 5
    • 3
    • 5
    bigfatfishBet2000.006000.0011569.64
    Dutyfree28Call2000.008000.0086625.02
    Turn
    • 4
    bigfatfishBet8000.0016000.003569.64
    Dutyfree28Fold
    bigfatfishMuck
    bigfatfishWin8000.0011569.64
    bigfatfishReturn8000.000.0019569.64
    I'm potting pre. Your hand actually plays alright postflop and your stack size gives you enough room to pot control some dicey flops/turns if you get a caller pre flop.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    Sunday8pm said:

    mushroom1 said:

    The tournaments to which this thread is dedicated are off the schedule at the moment, so I thought I would, instead, just use this time to talk about some Mini UKOPS hands.

    I would really welcome any input.

    This first one was from the PLO8 last night, we were just in the money at this stage. I had around 33k.

    I was pretty certain this is a fold, but I've still got a former-era head on. Is this too tight for current year?

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    bigfatfishSmall blind1000.001000.0014569.64
    Dutyfree28Big blind2000.003000.0088625.02
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
    • A
    • 9
    jaw207Fold
    mushroom1Fold
    skunker25Fold
    bigfatfishCall1000.004000.0013569.64
    Dutyfree28Check
    Flop
    • 5
    • 3
    • 5
    bigfatfishBet2000.006000.0011569.64
    Dutyfree28Call2000.008000.0086625.02
    Turn
    • 4
    bigfatfishBet8000.0016000.003569.64
    Dutyfree28Fold
    bigfatfishMuck
    bigfatfishWin8000.0011569.64
    bigfatfishReturn8000.000.0019569.64
    I'm potting pre. Your hand actually plays alright postflop and your stack size gives you enough room to pot control some dicey flops/turns if you get a caller pre flop.
    My thinking was my stack size made this a difficult one to play, but, as you suggest, that may have been a mistake. I still have 26-odd left after potting, I guess.

    There were 2-3 stacks there were 12-15k I think, so it was in my mind that potting pre was unlikely to lead to flop-play, if that makes sense?

    Obviously, I edging towards the idea that I got this wrong, hence the posting, so I think you're right, even with all things considered.

    I have a hunch that I am a little too tight when down to 2-3 tables, generally, which probably comes from experience with less flatter pay-outs.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2020
    Here is another hand from the same level. This came before the hand above, so we were either in the money, or close to.

    Now, I probably didn't cover myself in glory here, but what I found/find so puzzling was the line my opponent took. Really struggled to read this situation.

    I've called the min raise in the big blind and, given a high(ish) flop was checked, I've taken a pop (with a draw) and got called. The turn paired the board and again I was checked too, so it seemed like a good opportunity to try again.

    As played, I was fairly surprised to get min-raised. I can't see what hand can be played this way? Surely one cannot check-raise just a five in this spot?

    Were I deeper, I probably would've re-popped. Should I have done anyway?
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    jaw207Small blind1000.001000.006880.00
    mushroom1Big blind2000.003000.0041025.84
    Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 3
    • 10
    • Q
    bbMikeFold
    skunker25Fold
    bigfatfishFold
    Dutyfree28Raise4000.007000.0090125.02
    jaw207Fold
    mushroom1Call2000.009000.0039025.84
    Flop
    • 9
    • 5
    • J
    mushroom1Bet5500.0014500.0033525.84
    Dutyfree28Call5500.0020000.0084625.02
    Turn
    • 5
    mushroom1Bet8000.0028000.0025525.84
    Dutyfree28Raise16000.0044000.0068625.02
    mushroom1Fold
    Dutyfree28Muck
    Dutyfree28Win36000.00104625.02
    Dutyfree28Return8000.000.00112625.02
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,030
    edited May 2020
    I'm 100% potting the Aces hand pre. Bear in mind, just after we get in the money, folks loosen up big time.

    Once we see that flop we can pretty much bin our hand, & it's 100% a fold on the turn.

    Even so, I still think we should be raising pre.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    Tikay10 said:

    I'm 100% potting the Aces hand pre. Bear in mind, just after we get in the money, folks loosen up big time.

    Once we see that flop we can pretty much bin our hand, & it's 100% a fold on the turn.

    Even so, I still think we should be raising pre.

    Yes, upon thinking, and digesting the replies from yourself and Sunday, I am certain you are both correct.

    I think I always knew my play was incorrect, which was why I was so keen to post the hand.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,030

    Sunday made a good point about pot control on the flop & turn.

    What I try to avoid in this exact spot is going busto chasing half the pot. Any all high flop (or just 1 low card) I'm c-betting the turn heavy.
  • mushroom1mushroom1 Member Posts: 645
    Tikay10 said:


    Sunday made a good point about pot control on the flop & turn.

    What I try to avoid in this exact spot is going busto chasing half the pot. Any all high flop (or just 1 low card) I'm c-betting the turn heavy.

    Indeed, pal.

    I have no issue with playing high-only hands, if it's cheap and multi-way, obviously. But at 1000/2000 it's never going to be like that - which is why I struggled with my decision. And a timebank would've been no use as, 12 hours later, I still wasn't any the wiser!

    :p
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,030

    I'm the same, I'm fine with high-only hands, especially as almost all our callers will be on the low. But we have to be super-disciplined post flop.
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