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loosecamel
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Hi everyone
Short-term lurker, first time poster, but I've got a hand I keep on thinking about and unsure what the best play is so thought I'd whack it on here to see if any sicko's can depart some wisdom. Never posted a hand history on here before so hopefully it plays nice..
We're about 9/10 in this situation IIRC. Table dynamics were myself and player in question have been preeetty tight and the table knows it (think by this point I've mentioned I sattied in) with both our blinds being persistently abused. Have been push/folding for the last hour so I've got a fairly tight image (unusually, for those who know me..).
Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance
mrwozza Small blind 1500.00 1500.00 116042.00
railtard11 Big blind 3000.00 4500.00 54241.88
Your hole cards
A
J
mrrungood Fold
loosecamel Raise 6666.00 11166.00 48770.00
matisback Call 6666.00 17832.00 47563.00
mrwozza Fold
railtard11 Call 3666.00 21498.00 50575.88
Flop
6
7
K
railtard11 Check
loosecamel Bet 9268.00 30766.00 39502.00
matisback Call 9268.00 40034.00 38295.00
railtard11 Fold
Turn
4
Flop:
This board hits my range harder than both villains I feel, so a mandatory c-bet. In hindsight 1-2k less may have equally done the trick, although this sizing shapes the pot up for a perfect turn jam. When called by BTN on the flop, I figure his range is gonna be 66-1010 (given dynamics I'm genuinely unsure whether these would have been shoved pre), KQs/KJs(?), occasional flatted AK and occasional AQ float. But all around I think his range is pretty narrow by this point. And my range I think is far wider, given I'd c-bet this with most Axs, 88-1010, KQs, AKo/s and AA (think I check JJ/QQ/KK here).
Turn:
Nice turn for me I think at first, now have some equity with a flush draw, no draws get there, as pointed out above, I don't think villain has a drawing hand in his range here, 89s doesn't call pre given stacks. With a pot-sized bet behind it's a question of shove or check/fold. Every bone in my body was leaning to a shove, even if I'm called with 66-77 or Kx I'd still have roughly 20% equity (and a sizeable bounty) and I think I get folds from 88-1010, rightly or wrongly. After limited thought with the sky timebank, I elected to check and give up if contested. I have enough KQ/AKs that check/call this turn so not worried about protecting my range at all so this would have to be a check/fold.
The reason this hand is troubling me now is because if we were to assume the range I've assigned for villain is correct, we have 6 combinations each of 88-1010 that will fold, 18 combos, and 3 combos each of 66-77 and KQs. If we assume villain folds all 88-1010 when shoved to, then it's a slam dunk shove as villain has 18 folding combos and 9 calling combos (i've eliminated speculative floats and a flatted AK in the range here as I think it's far less likely to be the case). At the time I just felt he was super weighted towards a K which would not fold to a shove. But that does raise a secondary question, given my percieved tightness, do we ever get folds from KJ/KQ here if shoved? I don't think so, but I may be wrong. The only other question is whether I can open jam this hand pre, given my image, I don't think I'd get looked up that light so it'd likely get through and would probably be a +EV play, but I think just raising is fine here and a much lower risk.
As played, I checked, villain bet with my insta-fold button clicked and player was nice to enough to show KQs.
Thanks for anyone's input, it would be appreciated.
Cheers
Loose
Short-term lurker, first time poster, but I've got a hand I keep on thinking about and unsure what the best play is so thought I'd whack it on here to see if any sicko's can depart some wisdom. Never posted a hand history on here before so hopefully it plays nice..
We're about 9/10 in this situation IIRC. Table dynamics were myself and player in question have been preeetty tight and the table knows it (think by this point I've mentioned I sattied in) with both our blinds being persistently abused. Have been push/folding for the last hour so I've got a fairly tight image (unusually, for those who know me..).
Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance
mrwozza Small blind 1500.00 1500.00 116042.00
railtard11 Big blind 3000.00 4500.00 54241.88
Your hole cards
A
J
mrrungood Fold
loosecamel Raise 6666.00 11166.00 48770.00
matisback Call 6666.00 17832.00 47563.00
mrwozza Fold
railtard11 Call 3666.00 21498.00 50575.88
Flop
6
7
K
railtard11 Check
loosecamel Bet 9268.00 30766.00 39502.00
matisback Call 9268.00 40034.00 38295.00
railtard11 Fold
Turn
4
Flop:
This board hits my range harder than both villains I feel, so a mandatory c-bet. In hindsight 1-2k less may have equally done the trick, although this sizing shapes the pot up for a perfect turn jam. When called by BTN on the flop, I figure his range is gonna be 66-1010 (given dynamics I'm genuinely unsure whether these would have been shoved pre), KQs/KJs(?), occasional flatted AK and occasional AQ float. But all around I think his range is pretty narrow by this point. And my range I think is far wider, given I'd c-bet this with most Axs, 88-1010, KQs, AKo/s and AA (think I check JJ/QQ/KK here).
Turn:
Nice turn for me I think at first, now have some equity with a flush draw, no draws get there, as pointed out above, I don't think villain has a drawing hand in his range here, 89s doesn't call pre given stacks. With a pot-sized bet behind it's a question of shove or check/fold. Every bone in my body was leaning to a shove, even if I'm called with 66-77 or Kx I'd still have roughly 20% equity (and a sizeable bounty) and I think I get folds from 88-1010, rightly or wrongly. After limited thought with the sky timebank, I elected to check and give up if contested. I have enough KQ/AKs that check/call this turn so not worried about protecting my range at all so this would have to be a check/fold.
The reason this hand is troubling me now is because if we were to assume the range I've assigned for villain is correct, we have 6 combinations each of 88-1010 that will fold, 18 combos, and 3 combos each of 66-77 and KQs. If we assume villain folds all 88-1010 when shoved to, then it's a slam dunk shove as villain has 18 folding combos and 9 calling combos (i've eliminated speculative floats and a flatted AK in the range here as I think it's far less likely to be the case). At the time I just felt he was super weighted towards a K which would not fold to a shove. But that does raise a secondary question, given my percieved tightness, do we ever get folds from KJ/KQ here if shoved? I don't think so, but I may be wrong. The only other question is whether I can open jam this hand pre, given my image, I don't think I'd get looked up that light so it'd likely get through and would probably be a +EV play, but I think just raising is fine here and a much lower risk.
As played, I checked, villain bet with my insta-fold button clicked and player was nice to enough to show KQs.
Thanks for anyone's input, it would be appreciated.
Cheers
Loose
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@loosecamel
I'll move this across to Poker Chat to see if we can get a few more replies.