In Response to Re: *****OCTOBER PROFIT CHALLENGE THREAD***** : The reason you find nl20 and 30 easier is because you have a higher standard of poker player who wont call you down with marginal hands all the time getting lucky by the river. Its also because you are putting meaningful amounts of money into each pot when you are trying to display strength. NL4/NL8 is soul destroying and should only be played as an introduction to poker for a newbie to get used to things like position and starting hand selection. If you are still playing nl4/8 after 12 months grinding there either is something wrong with your game or you just wanna play for fun and risk the minimum. Posted by ACEGOONER
What absolute rubbish, why is someone calling down with weak hands a bad thing, they get lucky occasionally but longterm you print money. If anything when people stop being stations and calling you down is when it gets harder and you have to play the players more but it it NOT a positive when players stop calling 3 streets with bottom pair, but I would love you tell me why it is.
More rubbish, when you play cash it should all be about big blinds, even thinking about the amounts in play it shows you clearly don't have very good bankroll management as you are seeing the money in terms of actual currency you can go and spend and therefore it could influence the decisions you make which is terrible when playing.
Soul destroying....., it is just a level you need to progress through to get to the next one, some people might take longer to do that but not everyone is the same so hence get there at different stages and if you don't and just stay there does it really matter, it's their busniess what they play and if it's purely for fun that's fine too.
In Response to Re: *****OCTOBER PROFIT CHALLENGE THREAD***** : What absolute rubbish, why is someone calling down with weak hands a bad thing, they get lucky occasionally but longterm you print money. If anything when people stop being stations and calling you down is when it gets harder and you have to play the players more but it it NOT a positive when players stop calling 3 streets with bottom pair, but I would love you tell me why it is. More rubbish, when you play cash it should all be about big blinds, even thinking about the amounts in play it shows you clearly don't have very good bankroll management as you are seeing the money in terms of actual currency you can go and spend and therefore it could influence the decisions you make which is terrible when playing. Soul destroying....., it is just a level you need to progress through to get to the next one, some people might take longer to do that but not everyone is the same so hence get there at different stages and if you don't and just stay there does it really matter, it's their busniess what they play and if it's purely for fun that's fine too. Posted by Dudeskin8
You make fair points with the exception being br management. But seriously I have played nl4 and I play better against betters players. Paradox of thrift it may be but its true.
After having a strong few days, Br is now at £710 After withdrawing my £300 i deposited. So total Profit in 1.5weeks £710 with 980 C4p Which ill reach 1000 by tonight.
In Response to Re: *****OCTOBER PROFIT CHALLENGE THREAD***** : If you are running this good, why didnt you want to play a fish like me! I suspect we will clash at nl30 soon! Well played. Posted by ACEGOONER
I have been informed i am rolled to play 30nl now :P I might give it ago in the new month, it wont be vs you!
In Response to Re: *****OCTOBER PROFIT CHALLENGE THREAD***** : I have been informed i am rolled to play 30nl now :P I might give it ago in the new month, it wont be vs you! Posted by shaun09
23 or so buy ins wouldn't leave you too comfortable if you get a shaky start. You made excellent profit with what you have been doing, why not keep it up for now? If it ain't broke and all that...
I didn't really track my profit this month; think I had about 120 or so in account after withdrawing 100/wk or thereabouts in September. Decided not to withdraw anything this month to grow BR and up over 400 now playing weekends only.
Tightened up some of my leaks and have become a lot more patient and disciplined, which shows in MTT results. Still make the odd poor decision about whether or not to continue in a hand but normally my instincts/inner nit save me before I bust out. My attitude to bubbling in DYMs is quite indifferent now (obviously I want to win but I don't stress when I don't win the high blinds lottery that is the bubble). Not sure if I should open my shoving/calling range on bubble when stacks are close in size, it's my next area for improvement.
PS: Anyone know if sky auto-reg me for UKOPS super sat? Won entry last night and no contact since.
i am going to stay at my limits for now. it wouldnt hurt to have a few sessions on 30nl, i know there is more regs at 30nl then 20nl. I feel safe at 20nl now. so thats where i will stay for now.
not sure if my post registered or not Ah well - 3 sessions first - down £4.42 - couldn't hit flop 2nd - up £5.86 - got lucky once with FH beating flus on river 3rd - £0.03 up! after being £5 up and then losing to better kicker with trips and straight flush to my FH. rechecked and actually down £2.92
not sure if my post registered or not Ah well - 3 sessions first - down £4.42 - couldn't hit flop 2nd - up £5.86 - got lucky once with FH beating flus on river 3rd - £0.03 up! after being £5 up and then losing to better kicker with trips and straight flush to my FH overall up for month £50.38 points 1014 good luck Posted by walesboy
If you only bet when you hit the flop an alert opponent will walk all over you. Over time you will only make a pair from unpaired hole cards about 33% of the time on the flop - that means 67% of the time you have nothing. If you only bet when you have a hand your opponent will simply bet every flop and, as you are more likely to miss than hit the flop, that means he will win 2/3 of hands heads up against you post flop.
He will also know that you only bet when you have a hand on the flop, so when you bet and he has nothing he can fold and save chips knowing you're somewhat strong.
PS: If you mean you were just card dead, that can happen but shouldn't be an issue in cash where blinds are static.
GJ getting +1k points, that's another £15 on its way.
In Response to Re: *****OCTOBER PROFIT CHALLENGE THREAD***** : If you only bet when you hit the flop an alert opponent will walk all over you. Over time you will only make a pair from unpaired hole cards about 33% of the time on the flop - that means 67% of the time you have nothing. If you only bet when you have a hand your opponent will simply bet every flop and, as you are more likely to miss than hit the flop, that means he will win 2/3 of hands heads up against you post flop. He will also know that you only bet when you have a hand on the flop, so when you bet and he has nothing he can fold and save chips knowing you're somewhat strong. PS: If you mean you were just card dead, that can happen but shouldn't be an issue in cash where blinds are static. GJ getting +1k points, that's another £15 on its way. Posted by BigRonnieC
No, I was c betting but either having to fold to large reraises or if I did go to showdown they had me beat. so i suppose it was more card dead on flop! just one of those sessions
which level do you play? I should be up to nl8 next week. Thanks.It is nice getting those cash 4 points. It has been this thread and last month's that have focused me.
In Response to Re: *****OCTOBER PROFIT CHALLENGE THREAD***** : No, I was c betting but either having to fold to large reraises or if I did go to showdown they had me beat. so i suppose it was more card dead on flop! just one of those sessions which level do you play? I should be up to nl8 next week. Thanks.It is nice getting those cash 4 points. It has been this thread and last month's that have focused me. Posted by walesboy
Mostly just 5 quid SNGs to occupy me while I do the 150-250gtd MTTs. Do cash the very very odd time, it's a completely different animal.
If they 3 bet you constantly on flop you have to make a stand some time. Either check raise sometimes when you hit flop (and sometimes with air) so they have no idea what you're holding or else 4 bet shove to show you won't wilt to any pressure.
Played quite a bit for me this weekend. Really up and down.
Played well Sat pm, nearly 3 BI's up.
Played the £2.20 deepstack Saturday night. Got an early double up with a set of queens, then hit top 2 pair with AK against a bluffer and the lot went in. Unfortunately he had bottom set and I was out within 30 minutes. Switched to cash, didn't play my best and lost a BI.
Lost another BI+ Sun pm and was starting to get a bit p'd off.
Down £1.33 for the two days.
So played the Fantasy football freeroll and binked it for £55. Happier now. )
In Response to Re: *****OCTOBER PROFIT CHALLENGE THREAD***** : More runbad. First £20gtd PLO first hand I run 3rd nuts into 2nd nuts house over house, second one I make it to heads-up and don't hit a single flop slowly bleeding chips away, only 5 runners so not even a cash. Made a decent run in the now only £500gtd PLO making the most of the few times I hit anything, but I'm not a magician, I can't make cashes out of thin air. Only 41 runners, so who knows how long this tourney will be around. Hope numbers were artificially low due to SPT, but they have been falling every week. Played the FLOPS event which had everything I hate: hold'em, quick structure, rebuys. Managed to hang around for a while with my initial buy-in, but there never was a chance of me cashing. Didn't quite go 0-fer as I had a min-cash in a £5.50 PLO8. I really hope I hit my usual Saturday form as I'm not used to 2 consecutive losing days and I don't like it one bit. 1 cash out of 6, daily balance -£23.10, MTD balance +£201.88. Posted by Giant811
Weekend sucked big time. Due to FLOPS I played way too much hold'em with predictable results. It started with the Scary Rebuy yesterday, the worst structured tournament I have ever played in my life. In the deepstack I actually got a fair number of hands, I just ended up losing all but one of them. I made a decent run in the deepstack tonight, but then ran TT into QQ with about 20 left, no binkage for me. So no cash and no prize in FLOPS for me, I don't plan on paying for another hold'em tournament in long long time. If I qualify for league freerolls etc I'm going to play, but other than that I'm going to stick with Omaha. No boring shove-fests there.
Somewhere inbetween I won a small PLO8 mtt, but drop in a bucket comes to mind.
1 cash out of 8, weekend balance -£24.30, MTD balance +£177.58.
In Response to Re: *****OCTOBER PROFIT CHALLENGE THREAD***** : 23 or so buy ins wouldn't leave you too comfortable if you get a shaky start. You made excellent profit with what you have been doing, why not keep it up for now? If it ain't broke and all that... I didn't really track my profit this month; think I had about 120 or so in account after withdrawing 100/wk or thereabouts in September. Decided not to withdraw anything this month to grow BR and up over 400 now playing weekends only. Tightened up some of my leaks and have become a lot more patient and disciplined, which shows in MTT results. Still make the odd poor decision about whether or not to continue in a hand but normally my instincts/inner nit save me before I bust out. My attitude to bubbling in DYMs is quite indifferent now (obviously I want to win but I don't stress when I don't win the high blinds lottery that is the bubble). Not sure if I should open my shoving/calling range on bubble when stacks are close in size, it's my next area for improvement. PS: Anyone know if sky auto-reg me for UKOPS super sat? Won entry last night and no contact since. Posted by BigRonnieC
Can add in a "free" spot in UKOPS £40k event next Saturday worth £220 - overall a good weekend and a good month profit wise. (Won spot in UKOPS from Super Satellite after winning free spot in Super Sat on disastermind.)
Going to use 50 quid from bet with Carlo to freeroll the Primo or a similar MTT next weekend and if I do as well in that as I did in Super Sat will be happy days.
Bit of an aside but one of the best things to come from weekend's play was to finally do an MTT with top players on the site involved and do well. I could really see the aggression (especially SimUK) and far less mistakes in the play. Looking forward to doing same next weekend as having consistently done well in the low buy in MTTs I was interested to play against high stakes players.
have enjoyed reading this thread this month so thought id contribute for a change.
total for the month was +£1217.56
took a few shots at 100nl which didnt really work out...one hand really stood out v a huge fish where i got in deep with AA v naked flush draw and lost 100nl psychologically beats me at the moment and i keep convincing myself that people are always making a move on me so will probably leave it for a little while.
overall a good month but cost myself a lot by playing when stressed out with work stuff which im normally better at handling.
5000 cash for points which is about normal for me so +£100 there too
In Response to Re: *****OCTOBER PROFIT CHALLENGE THREAD***** : Weekend sucked big time. Due to FLOPS I played way too much hold'em with predictable results. It started with the Scary Rebuy yesterday, the worst structured tournament I have ever played in my life. In the deepstack I actually got a fair number of hands, I just ended up losing all but one of them. I made a decent run in the deepstack tonight, but then ran TT into QQ with about 20 left, no binkage for me. So no cash and no prize in FLOPS for me, I don't plan on paying for another hold'em tournament in long long time. If I qualify for league freerolls etc I'm going to play, but other than that I'm going to stick with Omaha. No boring shove-fests there. Somewhere inbetween I won a small PLO8 mtt, but drop in a bucket comes to mind. 1 cash out of 8, weekend balance -£24.30, MTD balance +£177.58. Posted by Giant811
Still running bad, one min-cash in a bounty hunter and twice bubbled when someone slow-played a cooler. Fml.
1 cash out of 4, daily balance -£11.40, final October balance +£166.18.
Overall October was an excellent month, but unfortunately I ended the month on a serious downswing, losing about £80 from my peak profit. Here are some stats:
NLH:
Played 17, cashed 2, won 1 (heads-up vs Rich), profit -£46.28, ROI -86%.
Clearly I need to stop playing hold'em, and I will.
PLO:
Played 118, cashed 54, won 25, profit +£171.66, ROI +41%.
Very happy with my PLO performance, especially my improvement heads-up, as I won 25 while finishing runner-up only 12 times. (As I'm only counting cashes there could be some instances where I finished 2nd but didn't cash.)
PLO8:
Played 53, cashed 22, won 8, profit +£40.80, ROI +33%.
Happy with this as well, but still not 100% sure where I am as I had a big winning month in August and a big losing month in September. I hope I can stay firmly in profit going forward.
With regards to side goals I didn't manage to qualify for UKOPS #2 (I will try again tomorrow, but there won't be too many sats running after I come home from work) and I haven't had any impressive results in OHL yet.
My immediate concern is breaking out of my slump, and once that happens I'm confident I will show a profit in the November Profit Challenge again.
All round a good month, cash went ok, DYM seems to be improving and I won a seat to the UKOPS main event ) So a good deep run there and I will be very happy.
Going to be concentrating on playing NL4/NL8/NL10 next month and see if I can move up to NL20 by December.
Starting bankroll - £101.30 (should have £5 cfp to go onto that) Target - put 20% on the bankroll, 500 points, & play at least 2 Monday night DTD's. Posted by harding10
Finished the month with a bit of a florish (by my standards).
Had a short 2 table first session at nl8, finished up £1.39. Just a little taster ready for next month.
Played DTD, finished 2nd in the cheapstack for a profit over the 3 tourneys of £19.31.
Account at £218.30
Profit for the month at the end of play £117.
Comfortably made 500 points, but due to events away from the game only managed the one DTD.
Month started brilliantly which let me jump into NL20 a LOT sooner than I had planned but due to bad luck and probably some bad play I couldn't break through that barrier of around £500 to be comfortable but overall very happy with how it went after the previous month finishing down. Decided to plow on with NL10 next month till I have at least £500.
I also have 3 live tournies this month (DTD300, GUKPT Coventry and the SPT 6Maz at DTD) and would like to cashx in at least one of these.
I missed the 40k C4P. Got 24k.
I did not win a main event. Think I final tabled 1 or 2.
I did win a Thursday roller for 1.8k
I did not cash in any of the above live tournies. I did however comes 2nd in a 50£ Turbo at Luton for 690 and did a 1st in the Sky 50£ sidey at SPT for 1.4 so a good month in terms of that.
Up for the month 3.3k on Sky. Plus 1k C4P and 1k TSP bonus.
Comments
More rubbish, when you play cash it should all be about big blinds, even thinking about the amounts in play it shows you clearly don't have very good bankroll management as you are seeing the money in terms of actual currency you can go and spend and therefore it could influence the decisions you make which is terrible when playing.
Soul destroying....., it is just a level you need to progress through to get to the next one, some people might take longer to do that but not everyone is the same so hence get there at different stages and if you don't and just stay there does it really matter, it's their busniess what they play and if it's purely for fun that's fine too.
I didn't really track my profit this month; think I had about 120 or so in account after withdrawing 100/wk or thereabouts in September. Decided not to withdraw anything this month to grow BR and up over 400 now playing weekends only.
Tightened up some of my leaks and have become a lot more patient and disciplined, which shows in MTT results. Still make the odd poor decision about whether or not to continue in a hand but normally my instincts/inner nit save me before I bust out. My attitude to bubbling in DYMs is quite indifferent now (obviously I want to win but I don't stress when I don't win the high blinds lottery that is the bubble). Not sure if I should open my shoving/calling range on bubble when stacks are close in size, it's my next area for improvement.
PS: Anyone know if sky auto-reg me for UKOPS super sat? Won entry last night and no contact since.
Ah well - 3 sessions
first - down £4.42 - couldn't hit flop
2nd - up £5.86 - got lucky once with FH beating flus on river
3rd - £0.03 up! after being £5 up and then losing to better kicker with trips and straight flush to my FH. rechecked and actually down £2.92
overall up for month £47.31
points 1014
good luck
He will also know that you only bet when you have a hand on the flop, so when you bet and he has nothing he can fold and save chips knowing you're somewhat strong.
PS: If you mean you were just card dead, that can happen but shouldn't be an issue in cash where blinds are static.
GJ getting +1k points, that's another £15 on its way.
just one of those sessions
which level do you play? I should be up to nl8 next week.
Thanks.It is nice getting those cash 4 points. It has been this thread and last month's that have focused me.
If they 3 bet you constantly on flop you have to make a stand some time. Either check raise sometimes when you hit flop (and sometimes with air) so they have no idea what you're holding or else 4 bet shove to show you won't wilt to any pressure.
Played well Sat pm, nearly 3 BI's up.
Played the £2.20 deepstack Saturday night. Got an early double up with a set of queens, then hit top 2 pair with AK against a bluffer and the lot went in. Unfortunately he had bottom set and I was out within 30 minutes. Switched to cash, didn't play my best and lost a BI.
Lost another BI+ Sun pm and was starting to get a bit p'd off.
Down £1.33 for the two days.
So played the Fantasy football freeroll and binked it for £55. Happier now.
Account at £197.60 - nearly doubled for October.
778 points.
Somewhere inbetween I won a small PLO8 mtt, but drop in a bucket comes to mind.
1 cash out of 8, weekend balance -£24.30, MTD balance +£177.58.
Can add in a "free" spot in UKOPS £40k event next Saturday worth £220 - overall a good weekend and a good month profit wise. (Won spot in UKOPS from Super Satellite after winning free spot in Super Sat on disastermind.)
Going to use 50 quid from bet with Carlo to freeroll the Primo or a similar MTT next weekend and if I do as well in that as I did in Super Sat will be happy days.
Bit of an aside but one of the best things to come from weekend's play was to finally do an MTT with top players on the site involved and do well. I could really see the aggression (especially SimUK) and far less mistakes in the play. Looking forward to doing same next weekend as having consistently done well in the low buy in MTTs I was interested to play against high stakes players.
total for the month was +£1217.56
took a few shots at 100nl which didnt really work out...one hand really stood out v a huge fish where i got in deep with AA v naked flush draw and lost
overall a good month but cost myself a lot by playing when stressed out with work stuff which im normally better at handling.
5000 cash for points which is about normal for me so +£100 there too
1 cash out of 4, daily balance -£11.40, final October balance +£166.18.
Overall October was an excellent month, but unfortunately I ended the month on a serious downswing, losing about £80 from my peak profit. Here are some stats:
NLH:
Played 17, cashed 2, won 1 (heads-up vs Rich), profit -£46.28, ROI -86%.
Clearly I need to stop playing hold'em, and I will.
PLO:
Played 118, cashed 54, won 25, profit +£171.66, ROI +41%.
Very happy with my PLO performance, especially my improvement heads-up, as I won 25 while finishing runner-up only 12 times. (As I'm only counting cashes there could be some instances where I finished 2nd but didn't cash.)
PLO8:
Played 53, cashed 22, won 8, profit +£40.80, ROI +33%.
Happy with this as well, but still not 100% sure where I am as I had a big winning month in August and a big losing month in September. I hope I can stay firmly in profit going forward.
With regards to side goals I didn't manage to qualify for UKOPS #2 (I will try again tomorrow, but there won't be too many sats running after I come home from work) and I haven't had any impressive results in OHL yet.
My immediate concern is breaking out of my slump, and once that happens I'm confident I will show a profit in the November Profit Challenge again.
Total +£104
C4P 1710
All round a good month, cash went ok, DYM seems to be improving and I won a seat to the UKOPS main event )
So a good deep run there and I will be very happy.
Going to be concentrating on playing NL4/NL8/NL10 next month and see if I can move up to NL20 by December.
And what kind of IDIOT started this thread in the first place eh ??
Oh well its November 2 mos xxx
Had a short 2 table first session at nl8, finished up £1.39. Just a little taster ready for next month.
Played DTD, finished 2nd in the cheapstack for a profit over the 3 tourneys of £19.31.
Account at £218.30
Profit for the month at the end of play £117.
Comfortably made 500 points, but due to events away from the game only managed the one DTD.
Thats my best months profit yet!
Start BR - £290.54
Finish BR - £414.52
Total Profit - £123.98
Points - 1465