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UKOPS - the Leaderboard.

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,875
edited November 2011 in Poker Chat

Getting this right, &, most importantly, fair to ALL, is not easy.

Sky Poker have some views on how best to structure it, such that it is fair to all, but we are interested in your feedback.

A simple system will be best, too complex & it gets people cross-eyed.

Most money won? Well that sort of tilts it in favour of the High Roller or Main Event winner(s). Which may or may not be fair.....

Most cashes?

Graded points awarded for level of buy-in, or how many runners, or prize pool?

Double Points for the winner?

All these are possible, but it MUST be.....

1) Easy to understand

2) As fair to all as it is reasonably possible to be.

I should add that Chris (aka "Scouser") has volunteered to manage the Leaderboard Spreadsheet for us, & as everyone is so busy right now, it's likely we will accept his kind offer.

So, suggestions please. Speak now, or forever hold your.....
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited October 2011
    Go on the league points that Sky will award when you cash?  That way its simple, clear and is the same regardless of the buy in...
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  • cleaverjimcleaverjim Member Posts: 1,070
    edited October 2011
    The best average scores in the events but you must play min of 3,Then top 50 have a freeroll to determine outright winner and blagger?
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited October 2011
    To keep it UBER simplez, just use the same points system as the poker league. Can't see how that doesn't work TBH...

    EDIT: Not sure if the leaderboard prizes on offer are worth enough, I think the top 10 should all get the famouse light blue Skypoker hoody as well, that will make everyone grind the **** out of them!
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  • J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
    edited October 2011
    Tikay,

    I will e-mail you the answer!

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  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited October 2011


    alphabetical?


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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,875
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: UKOPS - the Leaderboard.:
    Tikay, I will e-mail you the answer!
    Posted by J-Hartigan
    I was thinking more along the lines of......

    Leaderboard points = 10 * [sqrt(n)/sqrt(k] * [1+log(b+0.25)] Where…

    n = number of entrants

    k = place of finish

    b - amount of buy-in

    Then add salt as necessary.
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  • J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: UKOPS - the Leaderboard.:
    In Response to Re: UKOPS - the Leaderboard. : I was thinking more along the lines of...... Leaderboard points = 10 * [sqrt(n)/sqrt(k] * [1+log(b+0.25)]   Where… n = number of entrants k = place of finish b - amount of buy-in Then add salt as necessary.
    Posted by Tikay10
    At least my version credited the source ;-)

    And, for the record, that formula creates a very good assessment of overall performance!

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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,875
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: UKOPS - the Leaderboard.:
    alphabetical?
    Posted by aussie09
    Good try aussie, or "au" man. Whoops, I mean TSP Aussie!

    Try typing "AA" into "find a player"........
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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited October 2011
    I think small Welsh dogs should get double points.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,875
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: UKOPS - the Leaderboard.:
    In Response to Re: UKOPS - the Leaderboard. : At least my version credited the source ;-) And, for the record, that formula creates a very good assessment of overall performance!
    Posted by J-Hartigan
    I ALWAYS credit sources, but as you e-Mailed it to me rather than Posted it on Forum, I kinda assumed you did not want the ultimate source revealed.....
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  • sikassikas Member Posts: 857
    edited October 2011
    lol, my post got removed


    but yeah....thats formulas good, defo go for that!

    ;-)
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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: UKOPS - the Leaderboard.:
    lol, my post got removed but yeah....thats formulas good, defo go for that! ;-)
    Posted by sikas
    Mine got ignored :o(
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  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited October 2011


    think mine has still got legs


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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,875
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: UKOPS - the Leaderboard.:
    In Response to Re: UKOPS - the Leaderboard. : Mine got ignored :o(
    Posted by elsadog
    WOOF!
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  • drumahai05drumahai05 Member Posts: 777
    edited October 2011
    taking tk maths n/k divide by min 3 results or best 3 with extra points for top 10 place buy in cost will not matter.
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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited October 2011
    Ive spent ages in excel trying to come up with an equation, trying to find a fair balance between buyin size and winnings, and relative points payouts compared to mincashs in £100 vs winning the £500 and its insane! Not got anything even close to fair. I don't envy anyone doing this, but if anyone wants to plug around I suggest the following,

    Calculate a fair score that eliminates the size of the buyin by unifying it across all the tournaments. Then use the field size to reflect 'skill' level by applying a mathematcal operator. Finally, add an arbitary number that is a function of the buyin in order to reflect the buyin size.

    Im still messing around with it...

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  • HITMAN_RVHITMAN_RV Member Posts: 8,688
    edited October 2011
    Errrrrrrrrrrrrr....................

    Would 'Cash' not be simpler, obviously the winner of the ME will have massive advantage!!

    But would that not keep it 'LIVE' till the end!!

    & tourney play off maybe for Top 25/50 cashers!!!!!!!!!

    Am trying to see the wood thru all them trees!!!

    X
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  • EyemanEyeman Member Posts: 1,039
    edited October 2011
    Then.... How many tournaments do you count? All that are played? 3 best scores? Must play 5?

    It's a minefiled.

    I'd go with combined totals of best 3 scores. Maybe half points for the Thursday and Final (to give those events double the weight).

    I also think just counting UKOPS1 and UKOPS3 is fair, cos i am in them.
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited October 2011
    that`s a lot sprouts in the picture :))))))))
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,875
    edited October 2011

    As some of you correctly suggest, it ain't quite as easy as it may look at first sight to make something which is essentially fair to as many players as possible.

    "cash won" is simple, but it might mean that when it gets to the Main Event, the winner auto wins the Leaderboard, but it'd be nice to have a bit of a sweat, really.

    We have our own views already, but are keen to take more feedback, to try & get good balance to the equation.
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