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Last ever deposit?

SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
edited November 2011 in Poker Chat
I've been on Sky for a while now and really enjoy the site and particularly the community and don't intend to play anywhere else any time soon.

I think I've played pretty well since I've been here but have certainly lost more than I've won.  Recently I've been working hard on my game and have been running deep in alot if tournaments without yet managing to bink any really significant results but feel like one is on it's way soon.

Anyway..... to the point of the post, I recently made what I hope will be my last ever deposit, I put in £40.00 on Monday which I have managed to spin up to £78.00 so far.  I'm determined to play good, profiatable poker and not overextend myself with higher buyins until I can afford them.

What I'm looking for from the forum is help, advice and tips from those amongst us that consistently make solid profit, be it general or specific to my game.

I know my game is pretty good, but also know there is significant room for improvement and would welcome advice from anyone willing to give it.

Cheers all
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited November 2011
    i recommend NL4 poker play tight ABC (for further advice check out Dohhhhs NL4 thread in clinic or my NL4 diary)

    ill see if i can find links
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  • penguin7penguin7 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited November 2011
    Crossed swords with you in a few MTTs lately. You appear to have a good sound game. Just stick to the level of tournies you have been playing. But make sure you go for the wins, dont be satisfied with min cashes. It will come !
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited November 2011
    Ive found that shorting in a higher level of cash poker reaps insta rewards , 30nl , 40nl and 50nl alot of oppos never give ya credit for a decent hand and call off with 2nd pair fairly easily cos ya cant bust em , but its easy to double or triple what ya bought in for.

    In other words if ya buy in at nl30 for £8 ya can double up easier and quicker than ya can at say full buy in at nl8.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited November 2011
    mini MTT'-s - NL4
    Check poker school for low stakes guide
    Deposit more and play NL8/10 if the thought of the NL4 grind is too much

    Low stakes is a nice level where you can win enough to roll your MTT entries tbh so it's ideal for you I think.
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  • SoLackSoLack Member Posts: 2,737
    edited November 2011
    Play low entry deepstacks.  If you are confident your game is solid there is a lot less variance.  Avioid getting all your chips in the middle until the later stages unless you have the nut nut.  Try and limit the pot sizes when you have a decent but not premium hand.  If you do this you can afford to have a couple of mishaps without going busto.  You can recover with a low stack, don't worry about your stack being lower than the rest of the table, just keep up with how many bbs you have.  If you have a premium hand never call, always reraise/3bet, maximise your winnings when you do win a hand.  Don't slow play AA or KK etc unless you are very short stacked.  Make sure youi take note of how the other players are playing.  When in position, reraise any serial c-better they will soon give it up or go bust.  Hope this helps. GL
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  • liamboi11liamboi11 Member Posts: 2,141
    edited November 2011
    awrite m8 you do have an overall good game playing you in cash and also tournies if your br is £78 why not play nl4 2-3 tables and play solid poker you could easily do this and when you are doing well use some profit take a shot satellite into main events

    gl m8
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  • tierceltiercel Member Posts: 325
    edited November 2011
    I would say stop playing to make a profit. Play to win and enjoy it. Aiming for a profit is a hard target and adds pessure especially when the results don't come; more than half of players don't succeed. Once you stop thinking about money your game flows better and you get the results. And yes, I am in profit , not a lot but better than a loss.
    I started this year with a profit from last year lost it and had to put money into the account until I got form back and regained the lost cash . This happened again during the summer but now I've repaid what I put in and am playing on winnings and maintaining the balance. As long as you play within your means and enjoy the game , thats all that matters.
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  • loonytoonsloonytoons Member Posts: 4,270
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Last ever deposit?:
    Play low entry deepstacks.  If you are confident your game is solid there is a lot less variance.  Avioid getting all your chips in the middle until the later stages unless you have the nut nut.  Try and limit the pot sizes when you have a decent but not premium hand.  If you do this you can afford to have a couple of mishaps without going busto.  You can recover with a low stack, don't worry about your stack being lower than the rest of the table, just keep up with how many bbs you have.  If you have a premium hand never call, always reraise/3bet, maximise your winnings when you do win a hand.  Don't slow play AA or KK etc unless you are very short stacked.  Make sure youi take note of how the other players are playing.  When in position, reraise any serial c-better they will soon give it up or go bust.  Hope this helps. GL
    Posted by SoLack
    LOL at this!!! All this advice is fine if your playing against good players but ..... Have you played any low level deepies lately apart from the DTD lol? Its as bad as the freerolls - none of them have any respect for raises/ re raises and bluffs, and most will chase everything even 1 outers lol!!!
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  • SoLackSoLack Member Posts: 2,737
    edited November 2011
    Sorry for giving duff advice.  Just play freerolls Slykllist, its obviously pointless trying to improve your game.
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  • AcidMan27AcidMan27 Member Posts: 3,752
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Last ever deposit?:
    In Response to Re: Last ever deposit? : LOL at this!!! All this advice is fine if your playing against good players but ..... Have you played any low level deepies lately apart from the DTD lol? Its as bad as the freerolls - none of them have any respect for raises/ re raises and bluffs, and most will chase everything even 1 outers lol!!!
    Posted by loonytoons

    All you can do is work on improving the technical aspects of your own game. You can't control what the other players do.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Last ever deposit?:
    In Response to Re: Last ever deposit? : LOL at this!!! All this advice is fine if your playing against good players but ..... Have you played any low level deepies lately apart from the DTD lol? Its as bad as the freerolls - none of them have any respect for raises/ re raises and bluffs, and most will chase everything even 1 outers lol!!!
    Posted by loonytoons
    In a game where you start with 250xbb, this is pretty much perfect and any good/solid player should be able to post an insanely good ROI over a decent sample.

    I think even Lucy777 showed a profit playing them, says it all  . . .
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  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited November 2011
    All I know is listen to Solack, with his results he is worth listening to!!

    I am doing the same from no deposit, withdrew all bankroll and trying to build it from zero!

    Dave
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  • penguin7penguin7 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited November 2011
    There is some very strange advice in this thread.

    Dont play to win ? Well you might as well play for free chips then !

    Dont play in tournies where there are players who call with 1 outers ? Hmmmmm !

    Good luck
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  • tierceltiercel Member Posts: 325
    edited November 2011
     Did you misread my post , where I said play to win in tourneys as opposed to playing for profit , because that is no different to cash players who say  if you are conscious of the money as money rather than as game chips it affects your game ?
    It certainly wasn't "don't play to win ". It was don't be too conscious of the money. If you win the money follows. Sportsmen play to win and beat the opposition. The money follows.

    n Response to Re: Last ever deposit?:
    There is some very strange advice in this thread. Dont play to win ? Well you might as well play for free chips then ! Dont play in tournies where there are players who call with 1 outers ? Hmmmmm ! Good luck
    Posted by penguin7
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  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited November 2011
    Thanks for all the advice guys, it's much appreciated

    I have played and watched SoLack and I'm more than happy to take his advice and I'm pleased to say it's in line with my own thinking anyway.

    If any of you guys are playing me and spot leaks, I know it's kind of counter intuitaive, but advice would be much appreciated.

    Keep it coming :)

    Sly
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  • penguin7penguin7 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited November 2011
    "I would say stop playing to make a profit"

    If you are not playing to make a profit, you are not playing to win. In tournaments. managing risk/reward in situations is key. As is BRM in all forms of the game.

    I appreciate what you are saying about the importance of enjoying the game, but without the "pressure" of wanting to make a profit, it is difficult to develop beyond being a recreational player. Which is obviously something Sly wants to do.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited November 2011
    You put £40 in on Monday 7th Nov and you have almost doubled it in less than a week! , just keep doing exactly what you're doing, you'll be overtaking me by December lol
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  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited November 2011

    1st lesson learned.......

    Don't Play Drunk!

    Managed to donk off about £25.00 last night after a few beers!

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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Last ever deposit?:
    1st lesson learned....... Don't Play Drunk! Managed to donk off about £25.00 last night after a few beers!
    Posted by Slykllist
    i believe dohhh is the drunk master.
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  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited November 2011
    I think the major advice you have to adhere to is probably the most said but also the most underated phrase.

    Bankroll management for the win!

    I dont play many MTT's, i play predominantly cash but i always stick to having at least 25 buy ins in my roll for the level i play. If i am multi tabling i try (not always succesfully) to have no more than between 5-8% of my roll in play at any one time. This is based on cash play.

    If you play a lot of MTT's i believe bankroll management is even more important and has to be a tad stricter but someone like penguin may be able to help more with MTT BRM than i.

    Basically, if you are good enough, which it sounds like you are, then you should never go bust with correct bankroll management.

    Also, if you have a relatively small BR then i think grinding the 2p/4p cash tables is as easy as it gets. Quite a few of us have built from there.
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