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Why can i not raise?

Ploppy33Ploppy33 Member Posts: 721
edited November 2011 in Poker Chat
I see this a lot - why can I not re-raise the non-all-in caller?

Only option is to call the extra 55

Shocking bad beat as well lol
gavpidge Small blind  50.00 50.00 3370.00
tomgoodun Big blind  100.00 150.00 11740.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
tiggy Call  100.00 250.00 12740.00
Ploppy33 Raise  500.00 750.00 4880.00
MK1979 Fold     
herbert1 All-in  555.00 1305.00 0.00
gavpidge Fold     
tomgoodun Fold     
tiggy Call  455.00 1760.00 12285.00
Ploppy33 Call  55.00 1815.00 4825.00
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 5
  • J
     
tiggy Check     
Ploppy33 Bet  1361.25 3176.25 3463.75
tiggy Fold     
Ploppy33 Unmatched bet  1361.25 1815.00 4825.00
Ploppy33 Show
  • Q
  • Q
   
herbert1 Show
  • 8
  • 8
   
Turn
   
  • 6
     
River
   
  • 7
     
herbert1 Win Straight to the 9 1815.00  1815.00
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited November 2011
    undertaise rule
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2011
    I think it happens when his allin is so small that its not big enough to be a min-reraise to the previous bet so it's just basically counted as a call.
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  • Ploppy33Ploppy33 Member Posts: 721
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Why can i not raise?:
    undertaise rule
    Posted by The_Don90
    eh?
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2011
    It's what I just explained.

    Also, are you any closer to arranging your HUs game Ploppy?
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  • Ploppy33Ploppy33 Member Posts: 721
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Why can i not raise?:
    It's what I just explained. Also, are you any closer to arranging your HUs game Ploppy?
    Posted by Lambert180
    Just replied on main thread but no - I cant seem to get hold of im
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2011
    He also just posted on main thread... get talkin lol.
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  • AcidMan27AcidMan27 Member Posts: 3,752
    edited November 2011
    His reraise all in is less than the minimum reraise allowed so you can only call.
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  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Why can i not raise?:
    His reraise all in is less than the minimum reraise allowed so you can only call.
    Posted by AcidMan27
    What he said
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  • Ploppy33Ploppy33 Member Posts: 721
    edited November 2011
    Learn something new every day!

    Now I just need to figure out how I went out to an UTG Limp with 75o which called my 25BB shove?

    Any ideas?
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  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited November 2011
    It's pretty logical really

    You raised and the guy went all in but for less than a minimum 3 bet, you can only call because the all in player has not raised, this is called an under-raise as mentioned earlier and wouldn't be legal unless it was an all in move
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited November 2011
    Standard betting rules.

    Sometimes you need to remember this and be careful with your bet sizing when you're intending get a lot of chips in the middle preflop with a short stack at the table. If you thought it likely herbert might put all his chips in you should have just limped behind tiggy, that way herberts push would have counted as a raise and you'd have the option to re-raise or shove over the top. A smaller raise, say 275, would have have given you that option too.
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