Sky Poker Tour 2010/2011 Every Friday night casino event was won by a Sky Poker player
Eyeman and myself chopped Newcastle, Rosjim won Leeds hu with Thewy, Lisa Marie Long won Cardiff heads up with RosJim, I think Tikay won Blackpool and I remember penguin7 winning in Glasgow the year before
Then of course Rich Orford won the Sat night game at Leeds
EDIT - Scotty77 Friday night SPT Side event 6 Max, HappyNige chop Sat night
No coincidence Sky players win regular casino events
Question for Paul and Tikay. As you're here Rich, you can answer too, if you like. If you had to be stuck in a lift for eight hours, who would you take with you?
Sky are starting to get a good reputation on the poker circuit with TSP etc. It shows by seeing some of the names willing to play on Sky off their own backs. What doesn't help is all the forum teams. Controversial statement I know, it seems to create a great bond and rivalry on the site so its fine, but if you want to be respected by regular live/pro players. Saying you are in a team called "Team Knight Plop" etc etc isn't going to help your credibility. Posted by FlashFlush
Your all forgetting this sentence.
I'm not slagging off the teams as a whole. They are good for the forum/competitiveness, my point is if you want to get credibility outside of Sky then it just won't happen.
If you want to just have fun and make friends they are perfect, but that is not what the OP is all about...
EDIT The original post quoted here was removed by the Mods. Out of respect I have removed the same post I quoted here - TommyD Posted by Rknowlez
I know a couple of venues in the London/Essex area which do not employ antes. I would love for you to go in one in particular, call the place a joke and the players pathetic.
Yes I agree that Stars is the best site going, but that's hardly breaking news is it. I'm struggling to work out how you are a self admitted losing player here if the players are so bad in general. Oh and by the by, I've come across plenty of players on the likes of Stars who really do not play optimally. I consider it a total myth that the general player-base on Stars is solid, it's so far from that case it's unreal.
In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : I know a couple of venues in the London/Essex area which do not employ antes. I would love for you to go in one in particular, call the place a joke and the players pathetic. Yes I agree that Stars is the best site going, but that's hardly breaking news is it. I'm struggling to work out how you are a self admitted losing player here if the players are so bad in general. Oh and by the by, I've come across plenty of players on the likes of Stars who really do not play optimally. I consider it a total myth that the general player-base on Stars is solid, it's so far from that case it's unreal. Posted by TommyD
In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : I know a couple of venues in the London/Essex area which do not employ antes. I would love for you to go in one in particular, call the place a joke and the players pathetic. Yes I agree that Stars is the best site going, but that's hardly breaking news is it. I'm struggling to work out how you are a self admitted losing player here if the players are so bad in general. Oh and by the by, I've come across plenty of players on the likes of Stars who really do not play optimally. I consider it a total myth that the general player-base on Stars is solid, it's so far from that case it's unreal. Posted by TommyD
I'm by no means saying im the best player out there and no doubt about it there is bad players on stars i admit i play casually for a hobby and make money elsewhere gambling. However i have lots of ffriedns in poekr who do play alot and after playing on Sky and seeing how stupid some aspects are its ridiculous. On starts there wont be any little forum tea parties with people buying t shirts to match the colour of their teams. The vast majority of live tournaments is antes form what i have seen and i have relatively little experience but that is just a personal preference of mine to play with antes and i did not mean no antes resulted in the players being bad. I just belive that the standard of play is so bad at some leves and im not good enough to exploit tis unliek some players. Just occasionally looking at theis forum makes me Lol if its not "Happy Birthday" here its somehting team related and poeple runnign £1 tourneys or complaining that the site only accomades for bigger br is just pathetic at time
Why is the best site the site where all players play optimaly. Surely the best site is full off fish? #commonsense Posted by FlashFlush
You're right Flash, I should clarify my statement. Stars is the best site when it comes to software, quantity of player-base and game choice (variants as well as amount of running cash tables and tournaments) IMO. Their support and security is also quite good although I am still not completely in love with cashout speed (then again until we reach pretty much get snap withdrawals to match snap deposits I'm not going to be totally happy).
In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : You're right Flash, I should clarify my statement. Stars is the best site when it comes to software, quantity of player-base and game choice (variants as well as amount of running cash tables and tournaments) IMO. Their support and security is also quite good although I am still not completely in love with cashout speed (then again until we reach pretty much get snap withdrawals to match snap deposits I'm not going to be totally happy). Posted by TommyD
Yeah I know what you meant m8. It wasn't directed at your comment. It was just in general really where you always people say "Sky is soooo bad the play is awful" IMO that should read "Sky is great the standard is sooo awful".
I've only ever really played on Sky, I've been on here since they 1st started so I don't have anything to compare it with but I can't imagine the standard between sites varies that much.
Interestingly Sky Poker Tour 2010/2011 Every Friday night casino event was won by a Sky Poker player Eyeman and myself chopped Newcastle, Rosjim won Leeds hu with Thewy, Lisa Marie Long won Cardiff heads up with RosJim, I think Tikay won Blackpool and I remember penguin7 winning in Glasgow the year before Then of course Rich Orford won the Sat night game at Leeds No coincidence Sky players win regular casino events Posted by SolarCarro
I agree with flashflush and others re the outsiders argument that sky's full of terrible players. If we're so bad why aren't these sharks all logged on pawning us?!
The opening post mentions another comment made by outsiders that we play 6-max so must be bad. I've never understood their point, 6-max makes for good gameplay, especially online when players are multi-tabling. Can anyone enlighten me as to why others think it's inferior?
I agree with flashflush and others re the outsiders argument that sky's full of terrible players. If we're so bad why aren't these sharks all logged on pawning us?! The opening post mentions another comment made by outsiders that we play 6-max so must be bad. I've never understood their point, 6-max makes for good gameplay, especially online when players are multi-tabling. Can anyone enlighten me as to why others think it's inferior? Posted by richtea
Because most live MTTs are full ring. As a result most lifetime live only cardroom regs can either wait for hands or go loose passive preflop and it doesn't hurt them that much. You can't wait for hands at 6 max and you can't be passive against decent players. In other words most live only players can't play 6 max.
If players are not able to command respect at an SPT then it is due to their perceived game by the other players and NOT because they play on XYZ poker site somewhere.
There has always been a divide between 'live' players who think they are soooooooo much better because they learned the game the hard way vs the internet players who show them that is simply no longer the case!!
If you are at an SPT event and the locals think it's funny to call light because you play on Sky then isn't that the optimum way to get to the FT or am I missing something? Sky's credibility comes in when our players repeatedly take down the side events and own the cash tables... And that is what the local's dont like!!!
FWIW, being in a team does not detract from the skill of the team players at SPT's, Nor do we reduce credibility of such events. The fact is as the guarantees get bigger more and more 'names' will come to play... and most of them will leave saying they thoroughly enjoyed playing at the event...
You'd be hard pressed to find a player, local or otherwise that doesn't enjoy the friendliness, banter and camaraderie at SPT's... They really are unique live events and should be respected as such...
I used to think that anyone who played live poker with headphones on was quite amusing and could never understand the necessity. But having played in a few live events i'm changing my opinion. What really bugs me is, local live players who think that online players, especially "Sky Players" are a bit of a joke. You make an simple honest mistake and local yokal has to have his say and stick his two pennies worth in, constantly reminding you that live poker is nothing like "Sky Poker". You don't have "Antes", you only play "Six Max", Oh! you must be a Sky Poker Player, this is a real game etc etc. Has anyone else experienced this live at SPT? I know players use these type of tacktics to put you off your game but I am proud to be a Sky Player and it annoys me that we get tarred and feathered at some of these events just because we enjoy our online poker. Personally I think we have some great players representing Sky Poker at live events and its a shame that we don't get the acknowledgment or respect we deserve at the tables. Is there anything we can do to enhance the reputation of our Sky Players at live events? or should I just get a set of headphones? I suppose we will just have to get out there and keep proving them wrong until they sit up and notice. See you all in Newcastle for another great adventure. Posted by POKERTREV
Hi Trev,
Sadly, the thread got a bit hijacked, but here's my take.
I've heard the comments more & more of late, & the more I hear them, the better I like it. It proves that Sky Poker is making it's mark on the scene. Three years ago, the trolls never mentioned us, now we are the talk of the town.
Worth remembering that almost every Online Poker Site you can name has lost traffic in the last year, some, like i-Poker, Laddies, Blue Square, in excess of 25%. Even 'Stars, though with good reason, are down. Sky Poker is the exact opposite, trading at far higher traffic levels y-o-y.
A year or so ago, Sir Alex was complaining about his noisy neighbours. Now look at those noisy neighbours.
In Response to The "Sky Joker" : Hi Trev, Sadly, the thread got a bit hijacked, but here's my take. I've heard the comments more & more of late, & the more I hear them, the better I like it. It proves that Sky Poker is making it's mark on the scene. Three years ago, the trolls never mentioned us, now we are the talk of the town. Worth remembering that almost every Online Poker Site you can name has lost traffic in the last year, some, like i-Poker, Laddies, Blue Square, in excess of 25%. Even 'Stars, though with good reason, are down. Sky Poker is the exact opposite, trading at far higher traffic levels y-o-y. A year or so ago, Sir Alex was complaining about his noisy neighbours. Now look at those noisy neighbours. Just ignore it Trev. Posted by Tikay10
Hi Tikay You could be right (As you always are) maybe people/live players are taking note of Sky Players more and more and we are a more formidable force than we realise.
If anything I would like to take the whole sky ensemble and everything it stands for (individually or as a Team) and say......we are here.......We are here to play and we are a force to be reckoned with.
FWIW - i've changed my mind after seeing all the posts on here and I want to represent sky to the max and strive for the respect that sky players deserve, and if a sky/team player wins..... I want the whole world to know about it.
There have been some good arguments for and against teams at live events and also some valid points regarding online players as opposed to live players.
Personally I would love for Sky Players to command the respect that they deserve at live events and so from now on, I will use this to my advantage and big us up at every opportunity at the live tables.
In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : Suprising you used the past tense tbh Posted by GLifUlose
Were you around at the launch? Think the open was 7 min blinds, ridic levels, 1500 chips...the site was full of bugs...could only 4 table MAX...couldn't resize tables/no mini view....ummm had to manually type in the amounts to reload on cash...you could rathole....probably loads of other stuff that I've forgotten.
But yeah while Sky isn't perfect, and can't claim to have the softaware/functionality of the 'big boys'...it has certainly come on a MASSIVE amount in the last 3/4 years.
And also tbh I wouldn't want Sky to become a stars clone. And I wouldn't wwant them to go down the iPoker route of just licensing the software on that horrible horrible network.
But yh I understand why you would think the way that you do.
ANYWAY to the team thing I can see with my own eyes at every SPT how much they bring to the site.
I think that Flash has a point in that when trying to describe the whole team thing to random casino people that they might give you funnny looks/its prob not something you wanna talk about....I think you have to be at SPTs to really **GET** the teams.
And Solarcarro - I continued the trend for winning the Firday night side event into the 2011/12 season of the SPT at the 6 max /bragggggggg
Alot of other forums regs have put in good posts on this topic so i'll keep mine (for me) fairly short, so....
OP, i think most bad Live players scoff at online players nowadays. They are scared and hate to admit that anyone can be better than them be playing something that isn't "real poker" involving physical cards, chips etc. And instead of wanting to get better and possibly accepting that they arn't very good, it's much easier and more satisfying for them to deny the idea of you being better than them altogether and just go into denial about it all. (similarly, this is how people who think online poker is rigged start).
Point is, if they are giving you stick, they are either, 1) Actually worried about you as a poker player, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to oust you. 2) Only messing around but have little/no idea of how to show that they arn't being serious. 3) Giving most players 'banter' for no reason, i.e. just being an out and out douchebag.
So tbh, i'd just ignore it and take it as a compliment that they feel the need to verbally jab you at the table. Just do the talking with your chips man! Get Aces over Kings and BOOM. Hevad Khan their @ss :P
EDIT: Just read Tikay's post and he's bang on. What a f****ng bause :P TK FTW.
Sky are starting to get a good reputation on the poker circuit with TSP etc. It shows by seeing some of the names willing to play on Sky off their own backs. What doesn't help is all the forum teams. Controversial statement I know, it seems to create a great bond and rivalry on the site so its fine, but if you want to be respected by regular live/pro players. Saying you are in a team called "Team Knight Plop" etc etc isn't going to help your credibility. Posted by FlashFlush
A ridiculous statement this above .
Tkp , TEAM51 ,TPT, THS , e.tc. are fun forum teams that play a few live sky mtts events & are not sponsored by skypoker .
TSP is the sky poker sponsored team.
To compare the above is just silly . Some poker players play for fun & some play for a living , to try bundle everyone in to the one category is just ridiculous .
How about Sky Poker players agree to make a 2012 New Year's Resolution:
"In 2012, Sky Poker players of all levels will go out and smash up tournaments up and down the UK. GUKPTs, local casino tourneys, even the game against your family at the kitchen table."
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Sky Poker Tour 2010/2011 Every Friday night casino event was won by a Sky Poker player
Eyeman and myself chopped Newcastle, Rosjim won Leeds hu with Thewy, Lisa Marie Long won Cardiff heads up with RosJim, I think Tikay won Blackpool and I remember penguin7 winning in Glasgow the year before
Then of course Rich Orford won the Sat night game at Leeds
EDIT - Scotty77 Friday night SPT Side event 6 Max, HappyNige chop Sat night
No coincidence Sky players win regular casino events
Edit: wrong thread
The opening post mentions another comment made by outsiders that we play 6-max so must be bad. I've never understood their point, 6-max makes for good gameplay, especially online when players are multi-tabling. Can anyone enlighten me as to why others think it's inferior?
If players are not able to command respect at an SPT then it is due to their perceived game by the other players and NOT because they play on XYZ poker site somewhere.
There has always been a divide between 'live' players who think they are soooooooo much better because they learned the game the hard way vs the internet players who show them that is simply no longer the case!!
If you are at an SPT event and the locals think it's funny to call light because you play on Sky then isn't that the optimum way to get to the FT or am I missing something? Sky's credibility comes in when our players repeatedly take down the side events and own the cash tables... And that is what the local's dont like!!!
FWIW, being in a team does not detract from the skill of the team players at SPT's, Nor do we reduce credibility of such events. The fact is as the guarantees get bigger more and more 'names' will come to play... and most of them will leave saying they thoroughly enjoyed playing at the event...
You'd be hard pressed to find a player, local or otherwise that doesn't enjoy the friendliness, banter and camaraderie at SPT's... They really are unique live events and should be respected as such...
xx
Sadly, the thread got a bit hijacked, but here's my take.
I've heard the comments more & more of late, & the more I hear them, the better I like it. It proves that Sky Poker is making it's mark on the scene. Three years ago, the trolls never mentioned us, now we are the talk of the town.
Worth remembering that almost every Online Poker Site you can name has lost traffic in the last year, some, like i-Poker, Laddies, Blue Square, in excess of 25%. Even 'Stars, though with good reason, are down. Sky Poker is the exact opposite, trading at far higher traffic levels y-o-y.
A year or so ago, Sir Alex was complaining about his noisy neighbours. Now look at those noisy neighbours.
Just ignore it Trev.
You could be right (As you always are) maybe people/live players are taking note of Sky Players more and more and we are a more formidable force than we realise.
If anything I would like to take the whole sky ensemble and everything it stands for (individually or as a Team) and say......we are here.......We are here to play and we are a force to be reckoned with.
FWIW - i've changed my mind after seeing all the posts on here and I want to represent sky to the max and strive for the respect that sky players deserve, and if a sky/team player wins..... I want the whole world to know about it.
There have been some good arguments for and against teams at live events and also some valid points regarding online players as opposed to live players.
Personally I would love for Sky Players to command the respect that they deserve at live events and so from now on, I will use this to my advantage and big us up at every opportunity at the live tables.
Come on Sky - We Rock!!!!!!!
OP, i think most bad Live players scoff at online players nowadays. They are scared and hate to admit that anyone can be better than them be playing something that isn't "real poker" involving physical cards, chips etc. And instead of wanting to get better and possibly accepting that they arn't very good, it's much easier and more satisfying for them to deny the idea of you being better than them altogether and just go into denial about it all. (similarly, this is how people who think online poker is rigged start).
Point is, if they are giving you stick, they are either,
1) Actually worried about you as a poker player, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to oust you.
2) Only messing around but have little/no idea of how to show that they arn't being serious.
3) Giving most players 'banter' for no reason, i.e. just being an out and out douchebag.
So tbh, i'd just ignore it and take it as a compliment that they feel the need to verbally jab you at the table. Just do the talking with your chips man!
EDIT: Just read Tikay's post and he's bang on. What a f****ng bause :P TK FTW.
Tkp , TEAM51 ,TPT, THS , e.tc. are fun forum teams that play a few live sky mtts events &
are not sponsored by skypoker .
TSP is the sky poker sponsored team.
To compare the above is just silly .
Some poker players play for fun & some play for a living ,
to try bundle everyone in to the one category is just ridiculous .