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DYM disaster

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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster:
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster :  If you win 60% of games, it takes ten games to win a fiver, is it worth the bother?
    Posted by oynutter
    Well a game will take around 30 mins and you can play 4-6 no probs, so thats 8-12 games per hour (give or take) so it's an alright win-rate and you can rack up some pretty decent C4P.

    JC seems to make a decent amount from DYMs alone. The only thing I would say is they can be very swongy... like the OP's situation, it's not that unlikely you might lose 11 in a row, so £60.50 at the level I played which can really hurt your confidence if you're not focused/disciplined.
  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited December 2011
    Hmmmm, yeh, thanks Lambert, that might be part of the reason I gave them up, even six in a row would do my head in----lol--- and I can only two table because I hate mini view. I have tried it a few times, but it takes so long to recover from a bad run, and there is definitely too much luck involved with 5 min blinds
  • DarntootinDarntootin Member Posts: 1,521
    edited December 2011
    Never tuned into this thread b4 but it caught my eye at 3 in the morning...

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    In Response to Re: DYM disasaster:
    maybe it is something that could be suggested DYM deep stack could work. the game would last 1.5 hours at least though i do agree with the rake being to high on them makes them very difficult but you do only need to win 55% of the time to be a winning player surely its do able 
    Posted by wenelinho

    *cries* :'(

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    Dohh cries as he would prefer a nice 10k startin stack and 30 min blinds ;))

    I think he would prefer 20k and 1hr...or is dat me?

  • DarntootinDarntootin Member Posts: 1,521
    edited December 2011
    In reply to the op...

    11 losses in a row sounds a lot, not sure wot my worst is...prob about 8ish...wait a minute...8!!! Gawd that musta hurt...IRISH!  Wot's me woorst DYM run?

    Anyways, always have A 8, be the short stack on the bubble, shove any hand, call with any hand, if you only have 3 BB's and sum1 has 4BB's fold....even if it leaves u wiv 0.78 BB's (but no lower mind), unless the short stck shoves...thn u shud dwell fold...or cry............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................





    :o )

    GL @ da tablez........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster:
    You would need to win a lot more than 55% of the time to actually win money mate!-- The rake is well over 10% at low stakes innit. If you win 55% of games, you lose money.
    Posted by oynutter


    £0.30 - £0.60 = Win 60% to break even
    £1.15 = Win 57.5% to break even
    £2.25 = Win 56.25% to break even
    £3.30 and above = Win 55% to break even

    :)
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    I've only just been back at DYM's this month after a very long break and I did a fare bit straight away going from £50 down to like £34 and that's pretty sickening but through patience and hard work I built it back and am now close to being stable at £3.30.

    11 in a row is pretty horrendous and tbh I'd think about posting a few of your exit hands on the clinic to perhaps see if you're shoving at the wrong time or just playing hands sub-optimally.

    Still good luck though, it'll soon turn. 
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster:
    In reply to the op... 11 losses in a row sounds a lot, not sure wot my worst is...prob about 8ish...wait a minute...8!!! Gawd that musta hurt...IRISH!  Wot's me woorst DYM run? Anyways, always have A 8, be the short stack on the bubble, shove any hand, call with any hand, if you only have 3 BB's and sum1 has 4BB's fold....even if it leaves u wiv 0.78 BB's (but no lower mind), unless the short stck shoves...thn u shud dwell fold...or cry...............................................................................
    Posted by Darntootin

    Your worst run over 2,222 games is losing 8 in a row on 1 occcasion, if you ignore that, it's down to 5 in a row.

    Which when you consider you've had 23 streaks above 8 wins in a row is pretty impressive!


    had a play around with the stats whilst I had em up....

    over 2,222 games your winrate is 64.76% & u've paid over $1,050 in rake

    wpwp
  • wenelinhowenelinho Member Posts: 109
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster:
    I've only just been back at DYM's this month after a very long break and I did a fare bit straight away going from £50 down to like £34 and that's pretty sickening but through patience and hard work I built it back and am now close to being stable at £3.30. 11 in a row is pretty horrendous and tbh I'd think about posting a few of your exit hands on the clinic to perhaps see if you're shoving at the wrong time or just playing hands sub-optimally. Still good luck though, it'll soon turn. 
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    i know its bad but im pretty sure that in 8 of them i did the correct shove, possibly i could of folded a couple of my QQ hands but in the most case im the aggressor i do the shoving and then got called by some1 who has the next pair up from mine.  i really dont think im an 11 in a row losing player material not to say that i dont need to improve i do.  Maybe posting my exit hands is a good idea though maybe just to get feedback
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster:
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster : Your worst run over 2,222 games is losing 8 in a row on 1 occcasion, if you ignore that, it's down to 5 in a row. Which when you consider you've had 23 streaks above 8 wins in a row is pretty impressive! full graph below http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/tootindym.png/ had a play around with the stats whilst I had em up.... over 2,222 games your winrate is 64.76% & u've paid over $1,050 in rake wpwp
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Thems be some pretty nice stats
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster:
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster : i know its bad but im pretty sure that in 8 of them i did the correct shove, possibly i could of folded a couple of my QQ hands but in the most case im the aggressor i do the shoving and then got called by some1 who has the next pair up from mine.  i really dont think im an 11 in a row losing player material not to say that i dont need to improve i do.  Maybe posting my exit hands is a good idea though maybe just to get feedback
    Posted by wenelinho
    Yeah like I said above, post them and sometimes even if you played it perfect, it's nice to hear some of the regulars say 'well played, you got unlucky'. People say a big part of poker is confidence and if you start doubting good play because of negative variance, it can lead to a world of pain... (slightly OTT lol)
  • MISTER_BMISTER_B Member Posts: 59
    edited December 2011
    Yes, they can be annoying. I've played 80 this week, and won around 51/52% of them, yet down £20.

    Oh dear...
  • belsibubbelsibub Member Posts: 2,527
    edited December 2011
    I will raise to 15 and it hurt even more as it was part of a real bad run of about 3 wins to 29 loses.About 10 or so of the 15 were on the bubble aces cracked aipf 4 times twice by ak(4 flush and trips).My on fault really for messing about trying to play 500 micro dym's in a month.
  • ricky1984ricky1984 Member Posts: 140
    edited December 2011
    Since reading JC's guide about 3 weeks ago, iv played around 70 DYM's mixing between £2.25 and £3.30 and have just under a 70% win rate, making around £30 profit.  very slow going, but i'm making a profit all the same. losing 4 in a row is my worst so far
  • DarntootinDarntootin Member Posts: 1,521
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster:
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster : Your worst run over 2,222 games is losing 8 in a row on 1 occcasion, if you ignore that, it's down to 5 in a row. Which when you consider you've had 23 streaks above 8 wins in a row is pretty impressive! full graph below http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/tootindym.png/ had a play around with the stats whilst I had em up.... over 2,222 games your winrate is 64.76% & u've paid over $1,050 in rake wpwp
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Cheers DOHHHHHHH, I go through phases where I can't even look at a DYM, but thanks to them I've only had to deposit £35 since I started playing on Sky (over 5 years ago).
  • wenelinhowenelinho Member Posts: 109
    edited December 2011
    2000 games and biggest loosing streak is 8 in a row FUDGIN ****.  ive dropped down a level to the £3.30 just to not destroy my bankroll.  Was thinking about posting all my exit hands on this thread see what people think of the way i play the hands, also im going to pick myself up a notepad and record every game i play my profit/loss and exit hands so i can always look back at them.  If im going to do this DYM thing im gonna do it right haha 
  • wenelinhowenelinho Member Posts: 109
    edited December 2011
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    lockett12Small blind 50.0050.001487.50
    AsmodeusBig blind 100.00150.003057.50
     Your hole cards
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    wenelinhoRaise 300.00450.001830.00
    donkanatorFold    
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    lockett12Call 250.00700.001237.50
    AsmodeusFold    
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    lockett12Check    
    wenelinhoBet 700.001400.001130.00
    lockett12All-in 1237.502637.500.00
    wenelinhoCall 537.503175.00592.50
    lockett12Show
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    wenelinhoShow
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    Turn
      
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    River
      
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    lockett12WinStraight to the Ace3175.00 3175.00
  • wenelinhowenelinho Member Posts: 109
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM disaster:
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance lockett12 Small blind   50.00 50.00 1487.50 Asmodeus Big blind   100.00 150.00 3057.50   Your hole cards https://www.skypoker.com/img/site/spade.gif '); background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; display: block; border-image: initial; width: 15px; text-align: center; font-size: 0.9em; background-position: 1px 100%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; border-width: 1px; border-color: #9bc3e5; border-style: solid" class="

    why cant i post this 
  • wenelinhowenelinho Member Posts: 109
    edited December 2011
    Once again i push with kk from the D BB calls and he has AA surprise surprise.   This kinda thing is how i went 11 in a row and i know it happens but it seems to happen a awful lot what you guys think 
  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited December 2011

    From my experience the swings in dyms can be insane.

    Below is my graph for dyms today, losing 9 out of my first 10 games. Managed to get my head back above water by the end though.

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/dymvariance.png/

  • wenelinhowenelinho Member Posts: 109
    edited December 2011
    wow 10 in a row in a day done a good job getting into the green for the day.  they are a complete grind these things and to be honest the only reason im playing is for the reasons i put in my first post not to say i dont enjoy them but i just prefer a good old fashioned 10 seat sng wer the top 3 get paid not very popular on here though.

    on a different note what are you using to record all of your results that way?
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