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bad fold i assume

AB0151AB0151 Member Posts: 275
in The Poker Clinic
Hand History #1502418088 (01:53 18/05/2020)
Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance
t0pbananaa Small blind £0.15 £0.15 £72.04
mongo229 Big blind £0.30 £0.45 £29.70
Your hole cards
K
K

conga38 Fold
AB0151 Raise £1.05 £1.50 £132.57
angermoose Fold
5toneFace Fold
t0pbananaa Raise £2.25 £3.75 £69.79
mongo229 Fold
AB0151 Raise £6.45 £10.20 £126.12
t0pbananaa Raise £12.30 £22.50 £57.49
AB0151 Call £7.20 £29.70 £118.92
Flop

6
A
8

t0pbananaa Check
AB0151 Check
Turn

2

t0pbananaa Bet £10.20 £39.90 £47.29
AB0151 Call £10.20 £50.10 £108.72
River

9

t0pbananaa Bet £26.10 £76.20 £21.19
AB0151 Fold
t0pbananaa Muck
t0pbananaa Win £48.30 £69.49
t0pbananaa Return £26.10 £1.80 £95.59
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  • AB0151AB0151 Member Posts: 275

    I mean his hands pre there (unless he is super loose/crazy - cant dismiss ofc) are aa/kk/qq/jj/ak - I block kk and ak so when we both check flop but play a decent bet on turn his jam on river has to be aces or stone cold bluff no? So it is more likely mathematically I was bluffed but given the level/player/time I'm having to assume not. Appreciate any thoughts that differ?
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    Any reads at all?
    I think I like the way you played it roughly 250BB deep. I know in theory he only should have 6 combos that beat you, but not sure he bets QQ- twice. If he does 5b wider worse As are prob big part of rest of his range. I can see why you are tempted to call getting close to 3/1 but I think he shows AA, AK too often. Others who play these limits more may have better read than me here though

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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,133
    It would be easier to analyse the play if the suits were visible. Taken in isolation it would appear its either AA or he got creative with Ax or an underpair and smashed the flop.

    My only question would be, do you think he folds to a 4bet pre as this is committing his stack if he does. Obvs you have to follow through should he push whats left.
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  • AB0151AB0151 Member Posts: 275
    edited May 2020
    TheEdge949 said:

    It would be easier to analyse the play if the suits were visible. Taken in isolation it would appear its either AA or he got creative with Ax or an underpair and smashed the flop.

    My only question would be, do you think he folds to a 4bet pre as this is committing his stack if he does. Obvs you have to follow through should he push whats left.

    Yeah I don't know how to export HH other than copy/paste so suits weren't shown - any ideas how i do this please?

    I can advise the turn brought 2 clubs and the river a third club so potentially bringing in a runner runner back door flush - neither of my Kings were clubs
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    TheEdge949 said:

    It would be easier to analyse the play if the suits were visible. Taken in isolation it would appear its either AA or he got creative with Ax or an underpair and smashed the flop.

    My only question would be, do you think he folds to a 4bet pre as this is committing his stack if he does. Obvs you have to follow through should he push whats left.

    This hand is 4bet pre flop.

    Without reads or history, if this is anything other than aces I'd be amazed.
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  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,297
    go to your my skypoker tab, drop down to hand history, copy and paste and the goobledogook appaers in a good format
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    boggoSmall blind150.00150.006670.00
    BizzyBig blind300.00450.004020.00
    Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
    u_owe_meFold
    madprofRaise600.001050.005660.00
    CameronpaFold
    boggoFold
    BizzyCall300.001350.003720.00
    Flop
    • 7
    • 10
    • 10
    BizzyCheck
    madprofBet1350.002700.004310.00
    BizzyCall1350.004050.002370.00
    Turn
    • A
    BizzyCheck
    madprofCheck
    River
    • 5
    BizzyBet900.004950.001470.00
    madprofCall900.005850.003410.00
    BizzyShow
    • 10
    • Q
    madprofShow
    • J
    • J
    BizzyWinThree 10s5850.007320.00
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  • AB0151AB0151 Member Posts: 275
    class="hhamt">t0pbananaaBet£10.20£39.90£47.29AB0151Call£10.20£50.10£108.72River
    • 9
    t0pbananaaBet£26.10£76.20£21.19AB0151Foldt0pbananaaMuckt0pbananaaWin£48.30£69.49t0pbananaaReturn£26.10£1
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    t0pbananaaSmall blind£0.15£0.15£72.04
    mongo229Big blind£0.30£0.45£29.70
    Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    conga38Fold
    AB0151Raise£1.05£1.50£132.57
    angermooseFold
    5toneFaceFold
    t0pbananaaRaise£2.25£3.75£69.79
    mongo229Fold
    AB0151Raise£6.45£10.20£126.12
    t0pbananaaRaise£12.30£22.50£57.49
    AB0151Call£7.20£29.70£118.92
    Flop
    • 6
    • A
    • 8
    t0pbananaaCheck
    AB0151Check
    Turn
    • 2
    t0pbananaaBet£10.20£39.90£47.29
    AB0151Call£10.20£50.10£108.72
    River
    • 9
    t0pbananaaBet£26.10£76.20£21.19
    AB0151Fold
    t0pbananaaMuck
    t0pbananaaWin£48.30£69.49
    t0pbananaaReturn£26.10£1.80£95.59
    .80£95.59
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  • AB0151AB0151 Member Posts: 275
    cheers - it was the gobbledook that got me !
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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,133
    hhyftrftdr said:

    TheEdge949 said:

    It would be easier to analyse the play if the suits were visible. Taken in isolation it would appear its either AA or he got creative with Ax or an underpair and smashed the flop.

    My only question would be, do you think he folds to a 4bet pre as this is committing his stack if he does. Obvs you have to follow through should he push whats left.

    This hand is 4bet pre flop.

    Without reads or history, if this is anything other than aces I'd be amazed.
    Yes sorry I misread the gobbledygook and thought it had only been three bet. Almost certainly aces.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    Hero faces a 5bet preflop if we want to be pedantic about the number of raises;)

    So following the logic if we think he only 5b AA are we happy to 4b/f KK here? Or do we flat the 3bet?
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