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This is highly unlikely to happen but if it does I should not have to pay the BBC

DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 580
So some people may or may not be aware that Elon Musk challenged Putin to a fight over Ukraine. As I understand it which may be wrong the bet would be If Elon Musk wins Putin has to pull all forces out of Ukraine if he loses Putin can take Ukraine.

Firstly this seems silly as Elon Musk has no authority to offer Ukraine as stakes he does not own it. So it would effectively be a free roll for Ukraine/Musk and a risk with no up side for Putin.

However Knowing Putin has a lot of martial arts experience even with the age difference advantage Musk would have, I would still have him down as the as a big under dog. This one would highly likely go to Putin. All that been said if this fight happened which it wont it would likely be pay per view.

I of course would have to watch this fight there would need to be every Winni lined up to watch it as the Ukrainian Winni storyline would kind of demand this. Note my girlfriend adapted a silly related to the Winni storyline which she wanted me to post but I dont think people like the posts. (it was a winni rescue mission for Winnis captured by the Russian spy Winni) she thinks she outplayed me with this one I am not so sure.

Anyway it is highly likely almost certain that if I did watch this pay per view fight I would be expected to have a TV License, This is what I object to. See some people argue the TV license is good value for money I disagree but there is little point in such a debate. The reason been it is like arguing over whether a certain Ice cream flavor tastes nice. It is just a matter of personal opinion. What I strongly disagree with is having to pay for the BBC for services that other people provide. Like if I am expected to pay for BBC programing fair enough if I choose to watch that. However been expected to pay the BBC for programing that other businesses/organizations provide which has nothing to do with the BBC is not right.
Like would it be reasonable to expect me to pay a tax/fee to Kellogg's If I wanted to buy cereal made by Nestle?

Comments

  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,440
    The Times literally has an article called 'How seriously should we take Elon Musk’s proposition to fight Vladimir Putin?'

    This might be the biggest journalistic low I have ever seen.
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 6,335
    Musk has no chance

  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 3,601
    Just Musk grabbing free publicity. He's the Katie Price of tech.
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,345
    edited March 18
    If I was to guess Elon Musk is trolling wide Putin.

    Money would be on the KGB man for that one unless Musk has an Iron Man type suit or has a fighting background.

    Musk would have the reach advantage as Putin is reported as being fairly short in stature and Elon is younger.

    What kind of odds would you have on this one if you owned a bookie and were to offer bets for it Doubleme?
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 3,601
    Putin 2/17 - Musk 7/2

    Putin has bona fide martial credentials, Musk was probably the "Boss" killer on "Streets Of Rage".

    I can hear Shang Tsung already......... "FINISH HIM"
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 6,595
    Putin could end up with wif a Rocket up his assk Musk some nuclear perfume.

    never happen but nice to speculate .....
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 580
    I have no idea what odds I would give since I am not educated in how to work out the relevant statistics and I do not have the funds to run a bookie. At a guess though I would give smaller odds for Putin to win then the edge suggested and larger odds for musk. I think this would be a very one sided fight. It would likely be over within 60 seconds.

    I am sure Death battle would conclude they could both Defeat Ultra Instinct Goku with their arms and legs amputated and their teeth removed.

    If the fight does happen and sky offer odds I will be given the hard choice of either backing who I want to lose or not betting. Unless they make musk like 500 to one then I might put a fiver on musk.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 3,601
    If deciding who you want to win or lose influences how you bet/gamble/trade then you should be staying well away from that market.

    I can very easily bet against Stoke, England or GB if I think there's value to do so.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 21,101
    It is a TV Licence rather than a BBC Licence.


    TV licence explained If you’ve ever asked the question 'do I need a TV licence?', the answer might be more complex than you think. We explain when you need one and the best way to buy




    If you watch or record 'live' TV on any channel – either through your TV or through a website or app – then you need a TV licence.

    This applies whether you receive Freesat, Freeview or a pay-TV service in your home.

    Since 2016, you also need a TV licence to watch or download on-demand or catch-up programmes on BBC iPlayer.

    You don’t need to buy a TV licence if you purely watch other catch-up or on-demand services, or only use your TV to watch DVDs, Blu-rays or video cassettes.

    If you’re sure that you don’t need a TV licence, make sure you inform TV Licensing via the online declaration form or call 0300 790 6071.


    Do I need a TV licence?

    Yes


    You watch or record TV at the time it's broadcast ('live' TV) through Freeview, Freesat or a pay-TV service such as Sky. This includes all channels, not just BBC channels.

    You need a licence regardless of whether you rent or own your home.

    You use BBC iPlayer on any device, including smartphones, laptops and tablets.


    No

    You exclusively use other catch-up services, such as ITV Hub and All 4.

    You only watch TV-streaming services, such as Amazon Prime Video, Disney Plus or Netflix, or YouTube videos.

    You only use your TV to watch DVDs, Blu-rays or video cassettes.


    What counts as 'live' TV?

    In this context, live TV doesn’t just mean watching sport or other programmes that are broadcast in real time; it applies to all content at the time it’s broadcast on a TV channel. It also includes all +1 channels, such as ITV+1 and Channel 4+1.

    The 'live' rule also applies to any programmes that are live-streamed on video-on-demand platforms at the same time as they are shown on TV. So, if you’re streaming Coronation Street on ITV Hub while it’s also being shown live on ITV, you need a TV licence.

    Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/televisions/article/tv-licence-explained-a4ROt3S92d24 - Which?
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 580
    HAYSIE said:

    It is a TV Licence rather than a BBC Licence.


    TV licence explained If you’ve ever asked the question 'do I need a TV licence?', the answer might be more complex than you think. We explain when you need one and the best way to buy




    If you watch or record 'live' TV on any channel – either through your TV or through a website or app – then you need a TV licence.

    This applies whether you receive Freesat, Freeview or a pay-TV service in your home.

    Since 2016, you also need a TV licence to watch or download on-demand or catch-up programmes on BBC iPlayer.

    You don’t need to buy a TV licence if you purely watch other catch-up or on-demand services, or only use your TV to watch DVDs, Blu-rays or video cassettes.

    If you’re sure that you don’t need a TV licence, make sure you inform TV Licensing via the online declaration form or call 0300 790 6071.


    Do I need a TV licence?

    Yes


    You watch or record TV at the time it's broadcast ('live' TV) through Freeview, Freesat or a pay-TV service such as Sky. This includes all channels, not just BBC channels.

    You need a licence regardless of whether you rent or own your home.

    You use BBC iPlayer on any device, including smartphones, laptops and tablets.


    No

    You exclusively use other catch-up services, such as ITV Hub and All 4.

    You only watch TV-streaming services, such as Amazon Prime Video, Disney Plus or Netflix, or YouTube videos.

    You only use your TV to watch DVDs, Blu-rays or video cassettes.


    What counts as 'live' TV?

    In this context, live TV doesn’t just mean watching sport or other programmes that are broadcast in real time; it applies to all content at the time it’s broadcast on a TV channel. It also includes all +1 channels, such as ITV+1 and Channel 4+1.

    The 'live' rule also applies to any programmes that are live-streamed on video-on-demand platforms at the same time as they are shown on TV. So, if you’re streaming Coronation Street on ITV Hub while it’s also being shown live on ITV, you need a TV licence.

    Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/televisions/article/tv-licence-explained-a4ROt3S92d24 - Which?

    oh right well they call it a TV license and not a BBC license fair enough then that changes everything obviously then it is for TV and not the BBC.

    I dont know why no one else thinks of this if you call it something else that means the truth is no longer true. If we call soldiers peacekeepers then its no longer an invasion its peacekeeping operation. If we call rape surprise sex then it is no longer rape it is surprise sex.

    Look I don't care what they call it. What the TV license is, is mandatory levy for the BBC for services they often do not provide and have nothing to do with.

    86% of the TV license fee goes to the BBC,
    https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/what-does-your-licence-fee-pay-for-top13?fbclid=IwAR1mDJ45FjPmeq-zuhcyOnIsbUxjke1kplwH8mD3B9dOpiWq8JAdimZvfJg

    and 74% of BBC funding comes from the TV license.
    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8101/?fbclid=IwAR0Gq1mIfUXmFYptdt7GkPLX90blLwfpLRCoHXb6mKZ_Wpk1M-icL09CTAk

    I don't care if they call it a TV license a BBC license a happy wappy license or a glowing box license. It is a mandatory levy for the BBC end of.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 21,101
    edited March 22
    Doubleme said:


    HAYSIE said:

    It is a TV Licence rather than a BBC Licence.


    TV licence explained If you’ve ever asked the question 'do I need a TV licence?', the answer might be more complex than you think. We explain when you need one and the best way to buy




    If you watch or record 'live' TV on any channel – either through your TV or through a website or app – then you need a TV licence.

    This applies whether you receive Freesat, Freeview or a pay-TV service in your home.

    Since 2016, you also need a TV licence to watch or download on-demand or catch-up programmes on BBC iPlayer.

    You don’t need to buy a TV licence if you purely watch other catch-up or on-demand services, or only use your TV to watch DVDs, Blu-rays or video cassettes.

    If you’re sure that you don’t need a TV licence, make sure you inform TV Licensing via the online declaration form or call 0300 790 6071.


    Do I need a TV licence?

    Yes


    You watch or record TV at the time it's broadcast ('live' TV) through Freeview, Freesat or a pay-TV service such as Sky. This includes all channels, not just BBC channels.

    You need a licence regardless of whether you rent or own your home.

    You use BBC iPlayer on any device, including smartphones, laptops and tablets.


    No

    You exclusively use other catch-up services, such as ITV Hub and All 4.

    You only watch TV-streaming services, such as Amazon Prime Video, Disney Plus or Netflix, or YouTube videos.

    You only use your TV to watch DVDs, Blu-rays or video cassettes.


    What counts as 'live' TV?

    In this context, live TV doesn’t just mean watching sport or other programmes that are broadcast in real time; it applies to all content at the time it’s broadcast on a TV channel. It also includes all +1 channels, such as ITV+1 and Channel 4+1.

    The 'live' rule also applies to any programmes that are live-streamed on video-on-demand platforms at the same time as they are shown on TV. So, if you’re streaming Coronation Street on ITV Hub while it’s also being shown live on ITV, you need a TV licence.

    Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/televisions/article/tv-licence-explained-a4ROt3S92d24 - Which?

    oh right well they call it a TV license and not a BBC license fair enough then that changes everything obviously then it is for TV and not the BBC.

    I dont know why no one else thinks of this if you call it something else that means the truth is no longer true. If we call soldiers peacekeepers then its no longer an invasion its peacekeeping operation. If we call rape surprise sex then it is no longer rape it is surprise sex.

    Look I don't care what they call it. What the TV license is, is mandatory levy for the BBC for services they often do not provide and have nothing to do with.

    86% of the TV license fee goes to the BBC,
    https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/what-does-your-licence-fee-pay-for-top13?fbclid=IwAR1mDJ45FjPmeq-zuhcyOnIsbUxjke1kplwH8mD3B9dOpiWq8JAdimZvfJg

    and 74% of BBC funding comes from the TV license.
    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8101/?fbclid=IwAR0Gq1mIfUXmFYptdt7GkPLX90blLwfpLRCoHXb6mKZ_Wpk1M-icL09CTAk

    I don't care if they call it a TV license a BBC license a happy wappy license or a glowing box license. It is a mandatory levy for the BBC end of.
    No Its a TV Licence, that you would still need whether you watch BBC or not.
    Just because The BBC receive the vast majority of the proceeds, still doesnt make it a BBC Licence.

    The BBC does not figure in whether or not you need a TV Licence.


    Do I need a TV licence?

    Yes

    You watch or record TV at the time it's broadcast ('live' TV) through Freeview, Freesat or a pay-TV service such as Sky. This includes all channels, not just BBC channels.

    You need a licence regardless of whether you rent or own your home.

    You use BBC iPlayer on any device, including smartphones, laptops and tablets.


    No

    You exclusively use other catch-up services, such as ITV Hub and All 4.

    You only watch TV-streaming services, such as Amazon Prime Video, Disney Plus or Netflix, or YouTube videos.

    You only use your TV to watch DVDs, Blu-rays or video cassettes.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 21,101
    edited March 22
    What the licence fee pays for
    The licence fee allows us to provide a wide range of TV, radio and online content, as well as developing new ways to deliver it to you. In addition to funding BBC programmes and services, a proportion of the licence fee contributed to the costs of rolling out broadband to the UK population and funds Welsh Language TV channel S4C and local TV channels.

    The licence fee allows the BBC's UK services to remain free of advertisements and independent of shareholder and political interest.

    Commercial income
    The licence fee is supplemented by income from the activities of our three commercial subsidiaries - BBC Studios, BBC Global News and BBC Studioworks.

    https://www.bbc.com/aboutthebbc/governance/licencefee/

    BBC television
    In 2017/18 80% of UK adults watched BBC Television each week (2017/18)


    BBC radio
    In 2017/18 64% of UK adults listened to BBC Radio each week (2017/18)


    Around the UK
    82% of adults in Wales watch BBC television each week


    Digital services
    74% of UK adults use BBC Online each month


    Bodyguard is BBC iPlayer’s most successful box set over with over 38 million requests (at 21 October 2018)

    47.8 million UK browsers came to BBC News Online in the week leading up to the 2017 General Election

    82% of under 16 users said that BBC Bitesize helps them with their schoolwork/homework


    Kermode and Mayo’s Film Review won Listeners’ Choice at the 2018 British Podcast Awards

    BBC The Social won the RTS Scotland Innovation award

    https://www.bbc.com/aboutthebbc/whatwedo/publicservices/
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 21,101
    edited March 22
    BBC Studios
    BBC Studios, a global content company with British creativity at its heart, is a commercial subsidiary of the BBC Group. Formed in April 2018 by the merger of BBC Worldwide and BBC Studios, it spans content financing, development, production, sales, branded services and ancillaries.

    BBC Studios’ award-winning British programmes are internationally recognised across a broad range of genres and specialisms. It has offices in 22 markets globally, including six production bases in the UK, and a further seven wholly-owned and production partnerships internationally. The company, which makes 2500 hours of content a year, is a champion for British creativity around the world and a committed partner for the UK’s independent sector. BBC Studios has revenue of £1.4bn, and returns around £200m to the BBC Group annually, complementing the BBC’s licence fee and enhancing programmes for UK audiences.

    BBC Studios
    BBC Studioworks
    BBC Studioworks is the largest television studios and post facilities provider in the UK, offering world-class creative and technical production solutions to the media industry. Working in partnership with a broad range of media companies, it helps create content across all genres for a variety of broadcasters.

    In September 2017, the company opened new and refurbished studios and post-production facilities at Television Centre in West London to supplement its portfolio in Elstree.

    BBC Studioworks
    BBC Global News Limited
    BBC Global News operates the BBC’s two commercially funded international news services: BBC World News, the 24-hour global news television channel, and the digital platform BBC.com (including the BBC.com website, a News app and a Sport app). BBC Global News’ mission is to be the best and most trusted international news provider in the world, whilst growing the BBC’s international news audiences and operating as a commercially efficient business.

    https://www.bbc.com/aboutthebbc/whatwedo/commercialservices/
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 6,595
    So there you have it......you don't need one. Let them cut off your supply. hic!
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