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HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,537

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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,111
    The NHS is not on the brink of collapse.

    It just feels entitled in the way no other industry (unless you count Politicians) do.

    Do Nurses deserve a pay rise? Of course they do. Just not more than everyone else.

    Do Nurses that go the extra mile and/or develop their skills deserve a pay rise? Of course. But what Unite and the RCN forget to mention is that young Nurses get automatic pay rises through length of service. Nurses who improve their skills and/or responsibility also move up in pay bands. I believe nearly 500 Nurses earn more than £90,000 p.a.

    https://www.nurses.co.uk/blog/a-nurses-guide-to-nhs-pay-bands-in-2022/#:~:text=NHS pay for Nurses is structured around different,NHS pay are on offer according to experience.

    The NHS is like pretty much everywhere else. The Majority do a good job. Many do an exceptional job. And some simply should no longer be there.

    My sister recently died. She was at a failing hospital-one that is currently in special measures. Were there good staff there? Of course there were. But had some of the best moved on to a Hospital without the career blight that is Special Measures? Yes. Did a substantial minority do the bare minimum or less? Also yes.

    Why should a 55 year-old Nurse with 30 years' experience, doing the same job as he/she has done for 20 years, get a massive pay rise? Particularly when you consider the knock-on effect of Final Salary Pensions. Whereas a 23 year-old, with 2 years' experience and taking on an enhanced role will already be getting a (deserved) substantial increase.
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,036
    It's "been on the brink of collapse" every winter for years.
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,111
    VespaPX said:

    It's "been on the brink of collapse" every winter for years.

    We need to take tough decisions.

    It's all very well "prioritising" NHS Hospitals, but if you give them money instead of other healthcare providers, such as Care Homes, McMillan Nurses, weekend GP Surgeries etc, then you end up with a logjam. Beds not being used optimally, ambulances waiting outside hospitals to no good purpose...

    It's not "bedblockers"-it is a failure to prioritise certain healthcare needs.
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,036
    "not bedblockers"

    After all 40k+ care staff were sacked or chose to leave in the last 2 years.

    My father-in-law was in hospital recently, stayed 2 weeks longer than he should due a delay in getting a care package sorted for him.
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