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ace and jacks's

robz7robz7 Member Posts: 35
edited April 2010 in Poker Chat
is A J good cards, today it lost be 4,000 twice in a row playing them, i personally dont think there as good as they look and to be honest i dont no how to play them now, any help ?

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    agboyagboy Member Posts: 110
    edited April 2010
    they r fairly good cards if u havent faced a raise and are in position! out of position and facing a raise, i tend to fold.  after all, its only ace high and u r easily dominated by ak, aq, aa, kk, qq, jj etc!
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    dav1964dav1964 Member Posts: 2,526
    edited April 2010
    They are purely pot -luck cards just like KJ K 10 ETC.
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    SpringsSprings Member Posts: 67
    edited April 2010
    AJ is a fine hand to be raising with, but not really one to call with.

    If you call with AJ, then are you hoping your opponent has A10 /A9 or worse, which is there's been heavy action pre-flop is unlikely. Also, it's behind to any pair. If you call an all-in with AJ, you are probably - at best - 50/50, if not hopelessly dominated.


    Agboy said that AJ is a nice hand to have 'in position', but to be honest, 7/4 is a nice hand, in poisition. So I wouldn't be too worried about playing AJ - in particular - in poisition, but be looking to play ANY hand in position.


    Also, AJ is probably more of a "tournament hand" as I call it, than a cash game hand. AJ is an easy hand to be pushing with late in a tournament, but in a cash game, it's a bit like pocket 8s, nice to start off with, but often turns to mush post-flop.

    Flop play with AJ is very difficult, too: if an ace comes, and you bet out and get re-raised, what's the decision?
    If there's been action pre-flop, and it comes jack high, are you already behind to QQ/KK/AA? Finally, it's only pulling to one-end of the straight, rather than a 8/9 say, which goes both directions.


    Overall, I think it's a great pushing / raising hand, but not one to be calling many (if any) chips off with.


    I hope this helps your game, robz7, and good luck to you.
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    robz7robz7 Member Posts: 35
    edited April 2010
    why wat a response thanks alot it does help, good luck too you too
    In Response to Re: ace and jacks's:
    AJ is a fine hand to be raising with, but not really one to call with. If you call with AJ, then are you hoping your opponent has A10 /A9 or worse, which is there's been heavy action pre-flop is unlikely. Also, it's behind to any pair. If you call an all-in with AJ, you are probably - at best - 50/50, if not hopelessly dominated. Agboy said that AJ is a nice hand to have 'in position', but to be honest, 7/4 is a nice hand, in poisition. So I wouldn't be too worried about playing AJ - in particular - in poisition, but be looking to play ANY hand in position. Also, AJ is probably more of a "tournament hand" as I call it, than a cash game hand. AJ is an easy hand to be pushing with late in a tournament, but in a cash game, it's a bit like pocket 8s, nice to start off with, but often turns to mush post-flop. Flop play with AJ is very difficult, too: if an ace comes, and you bet out and get re-raised, what's the decision? If there's been action pre-flop, and it comes jack high, are you already behind to QQ/KK/AA? Finally, it's only pulling to one-end of the straight, rather than a 8/9 say, which goes both directions. Overall, I think it's a great pushing / raising hand, but not one to be calling many (if any) chips off with. I hope this helps your game, robz7, and good luck to you.
    Posted by Springs
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    LMLLML Member Posts: 1,708
    edited April 2010
    I'M SAYING NOTHING!!!
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    GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited April 2010
    In Response to Re: ace and jacks's:
    I'M SAYING NOTHING!!!
    Posted by LML
    LOLOL this thread was made for you!

    Ok, as your saying nothing, the LML strategy for AJ is as follows....

    Only play AJ after a raise a reraise a rereraise and a rererereaise. At this spot your AJ is bound to be good so no point overplaying it, just call. Then when the rerererererererererereraises come in..... its a no brainer CALL!

    The J J J flop always comes down. (in lmls head at least)

    AJ IS THE NUTZ, end of:)
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    MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited April 2010
    Well said Greg, perfect explanation.
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