What would you do (poll)

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  mumsie Member Posts: 7,405

  November 2023

  min-raise (2-2.4bb)

  im actually min-raise or shove.

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  HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,162

  November 2023

  really need more information

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  stokefc Member Posts: 7,657

  November 2023

  shove

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  Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
  Card4Life	Small blind		300.00	300.00	6965.00
  bornablade	Big blind		600.00	900.00	6162.50
  	Your hole cards	K A
  giesahaun	Fold
  Y2slejAyar	Call		600.00	1500.00	9940.00
  stokefc	Raise		1800.00	3300.00	11461.25
  HENDRIK62	All-in		14155.00	17455.00	0.00
  gogogadget	Fold
  elipeter	Fold
  Card4Life	Fold
  bornablade	Fold
  Y2slejAyar	Fold
  stokefc	All-in		11461.25	28916.25	0.00
  HENDRIK62	Unmatched bet		893.75	28022.50	893.75
  stokefc	Show	K A
  HENDRIK62	Show	A J
  Flop
  		8 5 7
  Turn
  		5
  River
  		8
  HENDRIK62	Win	Flush to the Ace	28022.50		28916.25

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  SCOTFOX Member Posts: 188

  November 2023

  Go onto You Tube and watch players that are looking at all the different options. Personally, i prefer to be aggressive, but it depends on who is at my table and how much i am playing for. If it is for low stakes or a S&G i would shove (unless a tight player had already raised) If you would call a re raise, then you might as well go All-In yourself, and put the pressure on other players. Some players do not want to go All-in, because they then do not have any power or want to try and bluff, but usually i do not give them that option. Loose players will call with Ace-rag, KQ, or low pairs and i would take my chance of doubling up if i had AJ, so i would usually Shove. I colour code other players and yellow, means they are TIGHT and orange LOOSE, and other colours mean they are WEAK, FISHY, or OPINIONATED. Weak players would LIMP with AJ and hope to hit before raising, but i would be asking questions before they saw a flop.

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  HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,162

  November 2023

  stokefc said:

  @HENDRIK62
  

  Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
  Card4Life	Small blind		300.00	300.00	6965.00
  bornablade	Big blind		600.00	900.00	6162.50
  	Your hole cards	K A
  giesahaun	Fold
  Y2slejAyar	Call		600.00	1500.00	9940.00
  stokefc	Raise		1800.00	3300.00	11461.25
  HENDRIK62	All-in		14155.00	17455.00	0.00
  gogogadget	Fold
  elipeter	Fold
  Card4Life	Fold
  bornablade	Fold
  Y2slejAyar	Fold
  stokefc	All-in		11461.25	28916.25	0.00
  HENDRIK62	Unmatched bet		893.75	28022.50	893.75
  stokefc	Show	K A
  HENDRIK62	Show	A J
  Flop
  		8 5 7
  Turn
  		5
  River
  		8
  HENDRIK62	Win	Flush to the Ace	28022.50		28916.25

  I knew i was going to flop the flush because thewaddy told me to get it in when i was behind, sorry you were on the receiving end of my enhanced deck expertise......

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  Spike4000 Member Posts: 280

  November 2023

  by the way the correct answer was minraise

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  Doubleme Member Posts: 1,721

  November 2023

  so in terms of GTO the answer is min raise if we assume that effective stacks are 15bb.
  
  that been said this will depend on the structure and the players I am playing.
  
  for example if this is a don/sat structure and I am near certain of going through but shoving and been called could put me out open folding this could make sense.
  
  the jist of it is that ICM and tourney structure can affect a lot of things. eg if I am in a bounty hunter and bb had 3 blinds small blind has 15 blinds and I have 15 blinds I am outright shoving this because I want to iso to take the bounty myself.
  
  if other players are weird as in different response to what a random member of the population would do this too could affect my action.
  
  in most cases though unless there is something in the player dynamics or structure I would just min raise.

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  Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,321

  November 2023 edited November 2023

  Spike4000 said:

  by the way the correct answer was minraise

  
  @Spike4000
  
  Hi Spikey.
  
  Really, we needed more info.
  
  Was it cash, MTT, DYM etc, are there Bounties?
  
  If MTT or DYM, how many left, are we in the money etc.
  
  And whatever format, based on what we've seen, how wide do the SB & BB call, & how deep are they compared to us?
  
  The more info, the better.
  
  Stick up more of these questions Spikey, they are fun, & good for Forum interaction.

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  Spike4000 Member Posts: 280

  November 2023

  Tikay10 said:

  Spike4000 said:

  by the way the correct answer was minraise

  
  @Spike4000
  
  Hi Spikey.
  
  Really, we needed more info.
  
  Was it cash, MTT, DYM etc, are there Bounties?
  
  If MTT or DYM, how many left, are we in the money etc.
  
  And whatever format, based on what we've seen, how wide do the SB & BB call, & how deep are they compared to us?
  
  The more info, the better.
  
  Stick up more of these questions Spikey, they are fun, & good for Forum interaction.

  ill do some more with more context

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