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NHS England Scrapped.

HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 38,393

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  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,556
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 175,471


    Ha, whatever Sir Keir does gets criticised.

    Scrapping NHS England can only be a good thing.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,809
    Tikay10 said:



    Ha, whatever Sir Keir does gets criticised.

    Scrapping NHS England can only be a good thing.

    Depends what the alternative is, costs and looks like.

    My wife said that he's going to pay nurses more. My response was yes, probably by sacking 50,000 of them and therefore giving more to those that are left.

    I find that I cannot trust a word that Two Tier Kier utters.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 9,137

    Tikay10 said:



    Ha, whatever Sir Keir does gets criticised.

    Scrapping NHS England can only be a good thing.

    Depends what the alternative is, costs and looks like.

    My wife said that he's going to pay nurses more. My response was yes, probably by sacking 50,000 of them and therefore giving more to those that are left.

    I find that I cannot trust a word that Two Tier Kier utters.
    Shame you weren't so distrusting when it came to the Leave campaign.

    NHS England was only created in 2013. Supposedly to create "independence" from Government. 9,000 employees. Yet the old Civil Service posts it was designed to be "independent" from still exist. Doing essentially the same job.

    Scotland and Wales do not have an equivalent body.

    No-one is "independent" when it comes to the NHS. To give a recent example, an A&E expert claimed that the wrong people were being targeted to be seen at A&E. That the 4-hour waiting targets were being manipulated to see the easy cases first.

    And, if we only look at things through the lens of an A&E doctor treating patients, that is true.

    Then factor in what getting rid of the easy cases achieves. It frees up resources-because there are less people clogging up the system. Less people waiting for beds. Less people stuck in ambulances. Less people waiting for ambulances. And less people dying waiting for ambulances.

    Suddenly, it is not so easy. Because the Care system, the Ambulance service, and a host of other services are the cogs in the same wheel.

    Try watching last night's Question Time. The Tory MP on there is a former GP. And his comments about various facets of NHS England were particularly damning. Particularly when you realise that his political instincts would have been to say the opposite.

    The NHS needs lots of Managers. Needs lots of non-medical staff.

    What it does not need is more non-medical staff than medical staff.
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