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PTP Omaha Questions - Post them on this Thread, please.
Tikay10
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Very shortly, several of the PTP nights will be devoted entirely to Omaha.
Please Post any questions related to Omaha game-play from the PTP Evenings on this thread.
ANYONE can Post the questions, & ANYONE can answer them.
Open-source learning, can't beat it.
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maybe see you in the primo soon
yesterday a took part in the Omaha round TKO2,coming in at 130th which I was delighted and at the same time disappionted I dd,nt cash. My question is who much the % change to small pairs in your dealt hand make to the to the overhall hand into after after the flop etc this is compared to holdem. Takeing Into Consideration that there are fewer cards left in the Pack, 28 as opposed to 40 in holdham (6 seater table) I feel if I had played a few more a may have got further and even cashed before being Blinded out. Perhaps Ed Giddins could answer this.
All you know is the 4 cards in your own hand so there are effectively 48 cards "left in the pack".
The problem with small pairs in Omaha is that they are a very weak starting hand. Your chance of making a set is no greater than in Hold 'Em (apart from a small fraction) and even if you do make a set it is not a great hand due to the much greater chance that other players have better sets or big flush/straight/combo draws.
It's even worse if you have 3 cards of the same rank in your hand since you have one of your own "outs" in your hand. Always ditch these kinds of hands.
Plus when you have a pair in your starting hand you are not looking for a set but a full house or quads. Sets are rarely good enough to win as so many straights and flushes are usually available. So my advice would be only to play them if you have backup hands and never get totally married to it if you hit your set because you can easily be a long way behind.
Mr aardvark,
The replies by Mere & Talon pretty much sum it up.
In short, don't play small pairs in isolation. By "in isolation", it's OK if they "fit" with your hand, but, say, A-9-4-4 is hopeless, & has to be binned pre-flop.
The hand Talon mentioned - 4-4-5-6 - as having "nut draws" is an excellent example of when you can play small pairs. Any Board containing A-2-3, 2-3-4, 2-3-5, etc, are all likely to be good, & nicely disguised. But Boards containing 6-7-8, 7-8-9, you must be VERY careful of, because someone very probably has the higher straight. NEVER draw to the "bad" straights in Omaha. Ever.
In a recent home game playing omaha in dealers choice a situation arose where a big pot developed (nothing unusual there in omaha) on the board 4 hearts ...showdown player 1 had a heart flush king high with two of his hole cards hearts... player 2 had an ace flush but only held one heart being the ace... player 2 went to scoop the pot and I had to intervene to say that player 1 should have the pot as he has 2 hole cards that where hearts as you can imagine a bit of a discussion developed with another player siding on player 2 as it was in my house the unwritten rule is organiser has final say
good job it was early doors and not to much alcohol had been consumed we were only on our first crate
Please can you confirm the ruling i'm 99% sure I am right (for a change)
Therefore, player 1 wins the hand (assuming that player 2 didn't have a full house or better).
Many thanks guys... some humble pie is going to be eaten...gl at the tables