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should i just fold these hands in the super and mega rollers?

craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
edited December 2021 in Strategy
it's very early stages of the MTT and it wasn't long before i could see their was going to be lots of loose calls.

when the flop comes K the first thing that came to mind was would he fold or will he chase hands all the way and this villian it seems was a chaser and had A6.

should i fold them preflop and just wait for the blinds to increase?
2Guys1Acct Small blind   20.00 20.00 9940.00
dudleybug Big blind   40.00 60.00 8910.00
  Your hole cards
  • 7
  • 7
     
craigcu12 Raise   120.00 180.00 11360.00
clive_sop Fold        
gazzaluf05 Fold        
ARTHERITUS Call   120.00 300.00 9520.00
2Guys1Acct Fold        
dudleybug Fold        
Flop
   
  • 8
  • 3
  • K
     
craigcu12 Bet   120.00 420.00 11240.00
ARTHERITUS Call   120.00 540.00 9400.00
dudleybug Small blind   50.00 50.00 6935.00
craigcu12 Big blind   100.00 150.00 10470.00
  Your hole cards
  • 6
  • 9
     
clive_sop Fold        
gazzaluf05 Fold        
ARTHERITUS Fold        
2Guys1Acct Fold        
dudleybug Raise   150.00 300.00 6785.00
craigcu12
clive_sop Small blind   40.00 40.00 10475.00
gazzaluf05 Big blind   80.00 120.00 9160.00
  Your hole cards
  • 4
  • A
     
ARTHERITUS Call   80.00 200.00 10102.50
2Guys1Acct Fold        
dudleybug Raise   160.00 360.00 8225.00
craigcu12 Call   160.00 520.00 10570.00
clive_sop Small blind   30.00 30.00 10785.00
gazzaluf05 Big blind   60.00 90.00 9450.00
  Your hole cards
  • 7
  • 9
     
ARTHERITUS Call   60.00 150.00 9722.50
2Guys1Acct Fold        
dudleybug Raise   120.00 270.00 8515.00
craigcu12 Call   120.00 390.00 10880.00
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    craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited March 2014
    the other 3 are an example of me calling a min raise in the BB playing the nut flush draws and suited connectors OTB
    also this one here i was lucky to win as it was only thanks to a second J that i went ahead
    ARTHERITUS Small blind   20.00 20.00 9640.00
    2Guys1Acct Big blind   40.00 60.00 9960.00
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • K
    		     
    dudleybug Call   40.00 100.00 10110.00
    craigcu12 Raise   120.00 220.00 10100.00
    clive_sop Fold        
    gazzaluf05 Fold        
    ARTHERITUS Fold        
    2Guys1Acct Fold        
    dudleybug Call   80.00 300.00 10030.00
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • Q
    • J
    		     
    dudleybug Bet   120.00 420.00 9910.00
    craigcu12 Call   120.00 540.00 9980.00
    Turn
       
    • J
    		     
    dudleybug Bet   120.00 660.00 9790.00
    craigcu12 Call   120.00 780.00 9860.00
    River
       
    • 5
    		     
    dudleybug Bet   120.00 900.00 9670.00
    craigcu12 Raise   840.00 1740.00 9020.00
    dudleybug Call   720.00 2460.00 8950.00
    craigcu12 Show
    • J
    • K
    		     
    dudleybug Muck
    • 5
    • Q
    		     
    craigcu12
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    THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited March 2014
    you question urself to much craig, deep stacked nothing wrong with peeling a few flops with these type of hands for me
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    Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited March 2014
    Hand 1 - Ofc you should open! sick implied odds at this stage with hands like this. If I cbet, I prob go a bit bigger but it's fine. FWIW, remember if he is 'a chaser' and wants to call down with A6 on K82 when we have 77, that's good!

    Hand 2 - I'd deffo defend my BB with 69s this deep but all depends on how confident you are postflop. You need to be good enough to get away from certain spots postflop.

    Hand 3 - Flat or 3bet, either is fine.

    Hand 4 - Flat is good here, it's a hand that is much better NOT to 3bet here. The A4s above which is basically an identical spot... A4s plays better in 3b pots whereas 79s doesn't play as well as A4s in 3b pots but plays very well in multi way pots so a flat is good.

    Hand 5 - Iso bigger. I'd always be 3x'ing and then +1BB for every limper, so would be going 160 minimum here. Postflop played absolutely fine.

    P.S. unlucky for getting Jamie Burland on your table lol.
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    craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited March 2014
    the thing was i started to get frustrated because the times i was wanting calls what happens they fold and the times it was folded they decide to call.

    could it be that i made it too obvious being too aggressive again with these two hands and that is why they folded?
    gazzaluf05 Small blind   80.00 80.00 13000.00
    ARTHERITUS Big blind   160.00 240.00 18882.50
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 9
    		     
    2Guys1Acct Fold        
    craigcu12 Raise   480.00 720.00 11430.00
    clive_sop Fold        
    gazzaluf05 Fold        
    ARTHERITUS Call   320.00 1040.00 18562.50
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 3
    • 8
    		     
    ARTHERITUS Check        
    craigcu12 Bet   800.00 1840.00 10630.00
    ARTHERITUS Small blind   50.00 50.00 10892.50
    2Guys1Acct Big blind   100.00 150.00 9097.50
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 10
    		     
    dudleybug Fold        
    craigcu12 Raise   400.00 550.00 8570.00
    clive_sop Fold        
    gazzaluf05 Call   400.00 950.00 9860.00
    ARTHERITUS Fold        
    2Guys1Acct Fold        
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 3
    • 9
    		     
    craigcu12 Bet   800.00 1750.00 7770.00
    gazzaluf05 Fold        
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    craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited March 2014
    sorry that i posted all these hands.

    the main question was weather i was too loose or if i was being too aggressive post flop with the hands i want value from like the 1010 and 99
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    Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited March 2014
    I probably go a bit smaller on the flop with 99 just so we can get called by a wider range because while it's deffo a good spot to value bet, it is still relatively thin value.

    The TT hand, we deffo shuoldn't be 4x'ing pre. There's no hand I'd 4x in an MTT unless I knew everyone was awful and calling too much and wouldn't notice any difference if I go 4x with say TT+ and AK but 3x with QJs. You haven't mentioned anything like that, so I'd assume 3x is better. Again, bet smaller on the flop, don't be scared of being outdrawn, we WANT draws to call. On this flop, it's pretty hard for people to connect, apart from FDs, it's unlikely people are gonna have many worse hands that they're willing to call an almost full pot bet with.
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