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Overpair OOP vs nit

shakinacesshakinaces Member Posts: 1,590
edited May 2014 in Strategy
Mugged myself off here.  Should I take a c/c line after my flop c-bet?

Villain is very tight based on what I've seen so far, but tends to re-raise big hands. This flop and turn therefore hit him pretty hard, but the lack of raise, particularly on the turn, made me think I might be good.

The river bet was a bluff / blocker.  I don't expect to be good here but thought it may be sufficient to get folds from 2 pair hands and possibly sets, as he'd have seen enough from me to think that there could be tens in my range here.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
SBSmall blind £0.05 £0.05 £8.71
BBBig blind  £0.10 £0.15 £10.81
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • J
     
UTGFold     
shakinaces Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £11.60
villainCall  £0.30 £0.75 £11.41
SBCall  £0.25 £1.00 £8.46
BBFold     
Flop
   
  • 4
  • 9
  • 6
     
SBCheck     
shakinaces Bet  £0.75 £1.75 £10.85
villainCall  £0.75 £2.50 £10.66
SBFold     
Turn
   
  • 8
     
shakinaces Bet  £1.50 £4.00 £9.35
villainCall  £1.50 £5.50 £9.16
River
   
  • 7
     
shakinaces Bet  £2.80 £8.30 £6.55
villainCall  £2.80 £11.10 £6.36
shakinaces Show
  • J
  • J
   
villainShow
  • 4
  • 4
   
villainWin Three 4s £10.26  £16.62
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  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,395
    edited April 2014
    Flop and turn are fine - not sure how you can come to the conclusion that the flop must have hit him pretty hard? You're ahead almost always. If you don't think turn is a value bet then there is a lot of bluff potential to be had against this opponent. 

    River bet is what I don't like. The only tens in your range are TT and maybe occasionally 9T or XdTd. But despite that I don't think villain will fold 2 pair to that sizing anyway - certainly not going to fold a set. So basically no worse hands are folding and no better hands are calling. If you're going to make a bet to get folds, try making it at least £4.
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  • 77Chris9177Chris91 Member Posts: 375
    edited April 2014
    Yeh your river bet is pretty strange. If you wanna rep a 10 as Ivan said it's gotta be like £4 (Not that I like it because you don't get to the river with many 10's)

    Against this player type just c/f river imo. Villain isn't calling with worse and if they bet your pretty much always behind.
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  • DANDYDON87DANDYDON87 Member Posts: 42
    edited April 2014

    Flop, turn is fine.

    C/F or C/C river.

    Turning your hand into a bluff on the river is terrible here IMO at 10NL.

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  • shakinacesshakinaces Member Posts: 1,590
    edited April 2014
    Just to clarify my comment about villain hitting flop - pre he often seemed to raise the big hands (JJ+, AQ, AK, KQ) and call to flop some greater equity with mid/small pairs and suited connectors.  Therefore 44, 66, 99, 78s, 57s are all going to be in his range here IMO.

    In retrospect, I think it should have probably been a case of check/call (at most) after the flop.  The 8 means that lots more of the hands he could have are even stronger vs me (88, 89 - even 55, 77, 78 pick up a bit more equity that I would struggle to get a fold from).

    Thanks for the feedback.
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  • KAM99KAM99 Member Posts: 773
    edited May 2014

    Flop and turn are fine.  River there is a case of C/C or C/F depending on villain and what you know about them.

    Not sure what villain was doing though, as you farm for a set but then play it passive all the way to the river? Not wise at all.

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