DYM bubble, Thoughts please.

davelufc · December 2015

Just wondering what the DYM regs would do in this spot,,

Do i call and risk losing half my stack (ish) or fold and wait for a better spot..

Or is the right chance to knock a player out and cash??

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Davedude6	Small blind		75.00	75.00	2785.00
davelufc	Big blind		150.00	225.00	5140.00
	Your hole cards	10 A
HPsauce	Fold				1710.00
CHIZ	All-in		2215.00	2440.00	0.00
Davedude6	Fold
davelufc	????

67Bhoys · December 2015

I would fold here, but I have to confess that I do not play holdem too often.

The reason I fold, is that you are putting half your chips at risk, when you do not know if you are ahead. The player shoving isn't exactly short stacked, so you have to give him credit for having a hand of merit.

If he has AK AQ AJ you are dominated, if he has a pair you are flipping at best.

Also, the short stack is in the BB next hand, and he would be loving life if 2 bigger stacks get it in before it comes to him.

No need to get involved.

For me it's a fold.

Tikay10 · December 2015

^^^^

"No need to get involved.

For me it's a fold"

Exactly my thoughts.

We don't know the stacks of the 3rd & 4th players, but they only have 5,000 between them. (One may be really short). Meanwhile, we have 43% of the chips in play.

I have no idea what the serious heads do here, but I'm locked up because I am almost certain to cash. Blinds are only 75-150, there will be plenty of time to find a better spot than this.

And when in doubt, betting/shoving beats calling all day.

Incidentally, it does not matter whether this is NLH , PLO or PLO8 to me. In this spot, hand ranges are less important - FAR less important - than optimal DYM strategy.

We have no need to get involved here, none at all.

A clear FOLD to me.

I see more players dust off a 5,000 stack than enough, simply because they are in a hurry to get it ended.

Sit quiet, play snug, fire up another table & coast to the win.

IMO, of course.

Enut · December 2015

Irefer the gentleman to the two answers given previously. Fold.

Tikay10 · December 2015

Also, I don't know the relative abilities of the other players, but I know this - doubling up a decent player is never sensible.

MrCoxy · December 2015

In Response to Re: DYM bubble, Thoughts please.:

Also, I don't know the relative abilities of the other players, but I know this - doubling up a decent player is never sensible.
Posted by Tikay10

Doubling up any player is never sensible lol

F_Ivanovic · January 2016

I don't know about ICM in these spots but I'd want at least 60% equity minimum to even consider calling. Possibly even 65% eq. Villain has to be shoving 50% of hands just to have 60% and even if he's shoving 100% of hands we only have 63% equity. So yeah; clear fold.

BigRonnieC · January 2016

In Response to DYM bubble, Thoughts please.:

Just wondering what the DYM regs would do in this spot,, Do i call and risk losing half my stack (ish) or fold and wait for a better spot.. Or is the right chance to knock a player out and cash?? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance Davedude6 Small blind 75.00 75.00 2785.00 davelufc Big blind 150.00 225.00 5140.00 Your hole cards 10 A HPsauce Fold 1710.00 CHIZ All-in 2215.00 2440.00 0.00 Davedude6 Fold davelufc ????
Posted by davelufc

You'd be calling about half your stack for about evens odds. Blinds are 75/150 so plenty of time to go before it comes to shove ATC.

A10 is OK here in a tourney but in a DYM just fold unless it is someone who shoves every hand (you're still tossing a coin - I lost such a situation in a shove situation to A2 earlier).

You've more than 30 BBs - a lot more - why risk going to half that without a made hand? You hit a pair 1/3 the time on flop, drop the cards and take a note if he shows.

DYM bubble, Thoughts please.

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