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Dope. Vote now.

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,484
edited June 2017 in The Rail

It is likely that Las Vegas - well, all of Nevada - will legalize the regulated sale & use of marijuana on July 1st.
 
It will be on sale in regulated outlets (same places as you purchase cigarettes or alcohol) & it is ONLY for use in your own home. It will NOT be legal to use it in public places, Casinos or the like.

If the same Law was enacted here at home, in GB & RoI, would you approve, or disapprove. And why?
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    markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
    edited June 2017
    I vote yes.

    I do not smoke it although I have tried it.

    Do I think it is harmful? - Yes! But I do not think it is as harmful as alcohol or tobacco which are widely available and legal.

    Prolonged exposure to fast food is probably significantly more harmful than prolonged exposure to joints.
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    aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited June 2017

    my parents used to love marijuana.  i was brought up on it.  you could always find it in the house, especially on weekends.  herp alpert and his marijuana brass band were the best.



     
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    SR23SR23 Member Posts: 1,228
    edited June 2017

    I vote yes, too, but with caveats. Strains with higher CBD content have all sorts of benefits and can actually protect against some forms of mental illness but stuff with bonkers amounts of THC, however (skuunk*, say) can be pretty damaging - especially when it comes to adolescent brains. 

    So if we did begin to legalise it here I would approve of the more benign versions being available. But our drug laws in this country (and around much of the world) are paleolithic. Legalise MDMA, innit. 

    *yet not as paleolithic as Sky's inspired-by-North-Korea's stance on what words adults can and can't use on a forum. 
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,142
    edited June 2017
    Disapprove-would send out wrong message on smoking. Agree should be a medical exemption.
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    markycashmarkycash Member Posts: 2,837
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now.:
    Disapprove-would send out wrong message on smoking. Agree should be a medical exemption.
    Posted by Essexphil
    I presume you would ban smoking then Phil?

    P.S. I would agree (and I am a smoker).

    If any other drug killed the amount of people that tobacco does it would surely be banned. The government answer however is to take a large cut of the money and regularly bump up the price that 'addicts' have to pay. Isn't that just institutional drug dealing?
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,484
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now.:
    Disapprove-would send out wrong message on smoking. Agree should be a medical exemption.
    Posted by Essexphil
    I thought you'd say that, Phil.

    Views on this matter are closely tied to age. Younger folks think it is fine, Senior citizens not so much.
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    craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,960
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now.:
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now. : I thought you'd say that, Phil. Views on this matter are closely tied to age. Younger folks think it is fine, Senior citizens not so much.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Not all young folks think it's fine, i'm young but no way would I want to legalize it. 

    The NHS already has to deal with all the health problems caused from tobacco, alcohol and unhealthy food the last thing needed is another load of health problems. Why should we legalize this when we fighting to stop smokers and alcoholics as well as reduce the amount of satuated fats and sugar consumed.

    It doesn't end their because police have their work cut out having to deal with an increase in the amount of drug drivers because it will end up at a level like that of drink drivers.

    finally it will create anger amoung the other drug users wanting their drugs legalized
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,568
    edited June 2017
    I voted for Brexit..........

    It's your Body treat it nice ....... or ....... abuse it ....... pay the price either way. !
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    hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now.:
    I voted for Brexit.......... It's your Body treat it nice ....... or ....... abuse it ....... pay the price either way. !
    Posted by goldon


    And in other news, water is wet.
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,568
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now.:
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now. : And in other news, water is wet.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    wave the flag ..... shake the stick....... who's the pri.........Oops
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    rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,233
    edited June 2017
    Your  only here for a short time, and ive done a lot of stuff, the thing is if you have an addictive personality whether it be gambling,drinking,smoking, whatever, it can be your downfall, ive been lucky I can stop when I think I am starting to get a problem, a lot of people cant.
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    rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,233
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now.:
    Your  only here for a short time, and ive done a lot of stuff, the thing is if you have an addictive personality whether it be gambling,drinking,smoking, whatever, it can be your downfall, ive been lucky I can stop when I think I am starting to get a problem, a lot of people cant.
    Posted by rabdeniro
    When I say that, im half pist,lost a load of cash but ive not had any dope(yet) so in hindsight mabae I ive got a problem.
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,142
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now.:
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now. : I presume you would ban smoking then Phil? P.S. I would agree (and I am a smoker). If any other drug killed the amount of people that tobacco does it would surely be banned. The government answer however is to take a large cut of the money and regularly bump up the price that 'addicts' have to pay. Isn't that just institutional drug dealing?
    Posted by markycash
    Difficult to ban smoking-there are thousands of addicts. Need to concentrate on stopping new addicts-smoking needs to be regarded as like snuff taking-a relic of former times. Quite sad to see people forced to give up as they enter a care home!

    Government are incredibly stupid re taxing the **** out of addicts-need to spend money giving real help (not promoting alternative addictive products).

    I would ban cannabis cos (1) it led to me smoking for 25 years; and (2) it is largely controlled by organised crime. Exemption for therapeutic use on prescription
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    Goody_AceGoody_Ace Member Posts: 206
    edited June 2017
    I thought the title of the post was a preview of Tikays autobiography.
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    stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,665
    edited June 2017
    im gonna open up now i shouldn,t but i will, i smoked weed for 24 years i gave up 2 years ago cold turkey it wasnt for health reasons it was for financial reasons and i must admit i missed it alot not so much now.
    it has done me no harm , it had a calming influence with me i was a very firery lad the weed stopped that my kids have grown up with me smoking weed my lad has just graduated with a 1st in derby university my daughter is doing very well at school my marrage is very strong 
    so not all bad comes from smoking weed i voted yes
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,038
    edited June 2017
    As far as i know no-one has died purely from taking marijuana.
    Compare that to alcohol, tobacco, fatty foods, prescription drugs, etc,etc.

    Its been illegal for one reason only........The pharmacutical companies would go bust if they couldn't get us hooked on their Anti-depressants and other chemicals they get us to take.

    What i've read that in the states in America where this has already happened, crime rate is down, drug dealers going out of business and suicides are down.

    Oh and for balance i tried it when i was a teenager in the 70's, didn't like it.
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    IH8UButlerIH8UButler Member Posts: 196
    edited June 2017
    I would be happy if it was legalised as it can then be controlled and regulated, people would know what they are buying and not have to resort to using these synthetic variants which are much more harmful from what I have seen. Also the proceeds from tax revenue could be partly directed to addiction programs etc. Even if it wasn't at least the money is going to the public purse rather than funding organised crime
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    IH8UButlerIH8UButler Member Posts: 196
    edited June 2017
    The basic issue with banning anything lots of people want to do, that may not be the best choice for them, is it just gets driven underground so criminals take all the profits, and the government/health service/police etc still have to deal with all the negative fallout. Same would apply to banning drinking, gambling, tobacco, fast food etc. Obviously in an ideal world we could make something that is not in someone's best interest illegal and no one would do it, but in reality that will never happen. At least if these things are taxed then those taking the risks can pay at least in part for the problems down the line. 
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    KadoomKadoom Member Posts: 116
    edited June 2017
    Absolutely legalize it,weed is a plant that doesn't have to be processed or chemacilized.I have never known a single person who only smokes weed to commit any violent or anti social crime ever while stoned,same cant be said for booze,coke and as for the synthetic stuff,it has nothing to do with weed its chemicals and the effects of it are horrendous,it also has many beneficial properties for people with alzheimers,ms and other horrific ailments,i used to care for a guy with ms and after i rolled him a spliff he was 100% better after one,could hold a cuppa,drive his mobility scooter and eat properly, FREE THE WEED
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    KadoomKadoom Member Posts: 116
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: Dope. Vote now.:
    Disapprove-would send out wrong message on smoking. Agree should be a medical exemption.
    Posted by Essexphil
    Doesn't have to be smoked Phil,there is more than one way to skin a joint.
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