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why can i not shove all in??
windamon
Member Posts: 219
in a b/h this morning and this happened.i had 3000 chips behind me on the button when i made a 3x raise (blinds 30/60).small blind called and the big blind moved in for 320 chips.i wanted to shove all in to try and get ply 2 to fold his hand leaving me and ply 3 to fight it out but my only option available to me was the call button, allowing ply 2 to enter the pot cheaply, the all in option was not there!! i moved all in anyway and won the pot and bounty, but why was i not allowed to move all in???
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One thing is for sure the player who shoved has done an UNDER RAISE and the other player yet to act has just called, therefore the 3bet reraise needed for you to 4bet has not actually happened.
As the mummy says look it up on google UNDER RAISE
You raise 180. He shoves for 320. Any reraise has to be at least a min raise so that would be 360. Because he can't min raise his bet is not classed as a raise so has effectively capped the action on that betting round. The only exception is if there are other players left to act who can then re open the betting.
These are little things you have to remember when wanting to raise. You can limp and hope he jams then you can reraise or call or raise an effective amount that he has to call all in.
This isn't just bounty hunters but any form, you have to be aware of the effective stacks and what your raise means. It happens more in bounty hunters as more people are willing to call short stack shoves so you can get multi way a lot which can be undesirable, especially with one pair hands. Example, AA. You just won't know where you are if 4/5 ppl call because you couldn't reraise!