how do u play againt people who call any thing

sim75 · February 2010

see the hand its happened a few times already and he has the nerve to say sorry

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
sim75	Small blind		30.00	30.00	8530.00
x x x	Big blind		60.00	90.00	4590.00
	Your hole cards	9 9
jake1971	Call		60.00	150.00	6730.00
sim75	Raise		270.00	420.00	8260.00
xx	Call		240.00	660.00	4350.00
jake1971	Fold
Flop
		Q 4 Q
sim75	Bet		660.00	1320.00	7600.00
xxxx	Call		660.00	1980.00	3690.00
Turn
		10
sim75	All-in		7600.00	9580.00	0.00
xxx	All-in		3690.00	13270.00	0.00
sim75	Unmatched bet		3910.00	9360.00	3910.00
sim75	Show	9 9
xxxxx	Show	7 J
River
		5
xxxxxx	Win	Flush to the Queen

sim75 · February 2010

how could i play this hand any better?

ACESOVER8s · February 2010

Erm, on a different point you should probably stop publishing peoples names in your HH as they tend to get a little miffed at you doing this

MereNovice · February 2010

In Response to Re: how do u play againt people who call any thing:

Erm, on a different point you should probably stop publishing peoples names in your HH as they tend to get a little miffed at you doing this
Posted by ACESOVER8s

Yes, please stop posting hands and naming your opponents.

DOHHHHHHH · February 2010

Ask yourself what he's calling the flop with. Look at the size of the pot in relation to the blinds.

U went abit smash n bash, gun-ho!, its a stubborn play I do it sometimes myself. Slowwwww down after the flop.

DOHH

sim75 · February 2010

sorry have changed the name of the villian lol
also dohh this person has openly showed he has called 10 high on a q hig flop thats why i moved heavy against him but was i right in why did he call the pre flop and then the flop?

Torres1892 · February 2010

The short answer is "absolutely nothing" but i think you played it far too aggressively post flop. What is he calling you with. he also could have slow played a monster and so would take all your chips anyway. Unfortunately there are plenty more where he came from and so thats why poker can be so frustrating !

Torres1892 · February 2010

The short answer is "absolutely nothing" but i think you played it far too aggressively post flop. What is he calling you with. he also could have slow played a monster and so would take all your chips anyway. Unfortunately there are plenty more where he came from and so thats why poker can be so frustrating !

DOHHHHHHH · February 2010

All I can think off, as to why he played the hand pre flop, without being rude, is to look at the stack sizes.

Unless its a deepstack u've both had gr8 starts to the tourny, and even if it is a deepstack, theres loads of play with blinds at 30/60. In deepstacked games players can play a wider range of hands hoping to crack big pairs etc.

Id prefer 67 clubs or 78 clubs, rather than 7-jak of clubs, lol, but Im guessing he's thinking if he hits the flop big he can win a hUge pot, and if he misses the flop, he can get away cheaply and easily.

I wouldn't do it myself, just trying to sugest why he might.

Chances are he's just a poor player/played it poorly without much thought, but ya never know.

I still slow down after the flop tho.

DOHH

sim75 · February 2010

cheers dohh
it was a deep stack so i guess your right with the ranges

DOHHHHHHH · February 2010

Im not defending his play SIM, do't think that.

If you think hes a loose cannon, and a hit n hoper, then maybe adapt ur game to combat this?

When Im playing players like this in deepstack cash games, I tighten my range up, I still build the pot by raising pre flop, but if the flop misses me, I slow down. I don't c bet as much. If I miss completely I just give up, let him win the small pots, get his confidence up. Against these guys Im always looking to win that 1 big pot that felts him.

It might be frustrating at times when you have such as 99, on that flop, as u KNOW hes probably holding 2 random cards, he could have hit the flop hard, he probably has missed by a mile, but u never know against these guys. This is why I like to stay in control, bet when Im ahead and I know Im ahead, and he'll pay u off.

Watched a video of Tony G on utube playing HU, n he kept using the word CONTROL. Whenever he felt he was losing control of the action, he checked or folded. I keep thinking of that when Im playing, n it really helps.

Anyway, u were UL, again. Hope it turns for ya, DOHH

NColley · February 2010

You've built up 8k chips, why on earth are you pushing all in on that turn, he could of had anything, just because he is a serial caller doesn't mean he can't have the queen, 10 or the flush on that turn.

Looks and sounds to me as if you were playing your opponent more than looking at the board.

Future tips vs serial callers, play smaller pots with weaker holdings, bigger pots with premium (AA, KK, QQ, AK possibly AQ if suited) and don't be thinking oh last hand he had 7 2 offsuit at the showdown so he must have something similar this hand.

dantb10 · February 2010

chek fold turn, u have no need to get involved.

Against these sorts of players, wait till u have the nuts or as close to it as u can get and you will get paid. theres no need to splash around trying to bluff these guys coz they dont listen, just wait for the perfect spots, they do come.

Tikay10 · February 2010

When the Flop came Q-4-Q (two Clubs), & Villain callled your bet, what sort of hand did you think Oppo might have?

Presumably, some sort of Queen, or the FD? What else COULD he possibly have?

If you put him on either (& he can't Call your Flop bet with much else, except an overpair to your nines), he is NEVER passing when the 10 of clubs turns.

I know you have had a bad run lately, & it's not going well for you. I, & everyone else, would like to see you turn it round. This play of this hand could be a clue to your recent downswing, & a teeny adjustment to your thinking might be all that's needed.

I think you are looking at YOUR hand, & not trying to think what villain might have. If you get called on a that Flop, you just have to do one thing differently - "re-assess".

The coup is almost identical to you having K-K, & an A flops. You'd slow down a bit, exercise pot-control, as he probably only calls with an A.

In the hand you Posted, he can only call on the Flop with a Q, or a Club, surely? So moving in was "not optimal". His PF call was optimistic, but he has not done a thing wrong after that.

This is not meant to be anything but constructive Sim, I hope you know that.

beaneh · February 2010

Think about your raise preflop and what it is to accomplish and how many 'good' flops you will see. Once you are called on the flop you are only beating pocket pairs 55-88. Betting 4000 into 1200 doesn't really help on the turn either!

Ms_Chips · February 2010

You tighten up play normal and exercise pot control on scary boards. Just about the opposite of everything you did. Hope this helps.

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Spikelad · February 2010

Often is my answer as over a period of time you will be ahead.

Deadluck · February 2010

You played that hand so bad.

Your opponent is probably thinking "What is this sims75 thinking??? Poker's easy, Send it!!!"

You bet the flop - fine
Villain calls - what has he got? Assume it's a Q or club
So a club comes on the turn and you shove
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I'm not against a bet on the turn, but a shove is just stupid, u have plenty of chips to get away from this.

how do u play againt people who call any thing

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