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Happy (?) Ramadan

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268

I believe Ramadan starts today. Ramadan is, broadly, the month of fasting celebrated by Muslims. It changes dates every year, & lasts just short of a month.

Firstly, I hope "Happy" is the right adjective to use in conjunction with Ramadan. It's fascinating to see how others observe their particular Religion or God. One of life's great mysteries & sorrows is that people of different religions don't always get along so well.

A few random thoughts follow. If we have any Muslims here, I'd be interested to hear their thoughts.

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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268

    Did you know that big Online Gaming Sites such as SB&G include Ramadan in their forecasting, as they know & expect that business will decline during Ramadan?

    Amazing the things that can affect the volume of business.
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268

    Perhaps the currently most well-known or famous Muslin in the UK is Mohammed Salah, the Liverpool goal-scoring machine.

    I like everything about Salah, he seems to be a genuinely good man.

    Before a game, or after he scores, he can often be seen doing the sujood. That's when they face Mecca, on all fours, with forehead, nose, hands, knees & toes all touching the ground;



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    My question would be, how does a professional sportsperson who is Muslim balance that with some of the Ramadan requirements, especially "fasting"?

    Fasting is obligatory during certain hours:


    "While fasting from dawn until sunset, Muslims refrain from consuming food, drinking liquids


    That's impossible for a pro Sportsperson such as Salah, surely? Is there some special exemption?

    I do understand, that not every Muslin follows these edicts, though most I know do seem to. Very different to Christianity, where most "celebrate" Christmas despite not really knowing what it represents, they just use it to eat & drink to excess.

    If I had my time again, & could choose such things, I'd like to be a Muslim I think, look at this for a lovely facet of Ramadan;

    Muslims are also instructed to refrain from sinful behavior that may negate the reward of fasting, such as false speech (insulting, backbiting, cursing, lying, etc.) and fighting except in self-defence

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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,036
    Tikay10 said:


    Did you know that big Online Gaming Sites such as SB&G include Ramadan in their forecasting, as they know & expect that business will decline during Ramadan?

    Amazing the things that can affect the volume. of business.

    That's very strange as gambling is forbidden according to Allah.
    https://islamqa.info/en/4013
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268

    Think you can safely assume that many Muslims gamble.
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    SidV79SidV79 Member Posts: 4,042
    I used to work with two devout Muslims and asked what Ramadan was about. I was told it is to 'cleanse' themselves before Allah although there were exemptions, notably pregnant women, also children were not expected to fast & neither were professional sports people.
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    hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    VespaPX said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Did you know that big Online Gaming Sites such as SB&G include Ramadan in their forecasting, as they know & expect that business will decline during Ramadan?

    Amazing the things that can affect the volume. of business.

    That's very strange as gambling is forbidden according to Allah.
    https://islamqa.info/en/4013
    Coming over here, stealing our bets.
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    SMARTGOATSMARTGOAT Member Posts: 477
    Tikay10 said:



    My question would be, how does a professional sportsperson who is Muslim balance that with some of the Ramadan requirements, especially "fasting"?


    That's impossible for a pro Sportsperson such as Salah, surely? Is there some special exemption?

    It depends on the individual, I suspect it is a difficult decision to make, but most definitely top footballers/ sportsmen have continued to play their sport during Ramadan. The Algerian football team in 2014 played their last 16 tie vs Germany a few days after Ramadan had begun and the majority of the team were fasting (they did however lose).


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    CATCH-22CATCH-22 Member Posts: 270
    Coming over here, stealing our bets.

    lol luv it but how would it be in the political correctness thread

    prime example of funny but for sure someone would complain
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,036

    VespaPX said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Did you know that big Online Gaming Sites such as SB&G include Ramadan in their forecasting, as they know & expect that business will decline during Ramadan?

    Amazing the things that can affect the volume. of business.

    That's very strange as gambling is forbidden according to Allah.
    https://islamqa.info/en/4013
    Coming over here, stealing our bets.
    No just the innocence of thousands of young girls.
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    hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    VespaPX said:

    VespaPX said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Did you know that big Online Gaming Sites such as SB&G include Ramadan in their forecasting, as they know & expect that business will decline during Ramadan?

    Amazing the things that can affect the volume. of business.

    That's very strange as gambling is forbidden according to Allah.
    https://islamqa.info/en/4013
    Coming over here, stealing our bets.
    No just the innocence of thousands of young girls.
    Evening Tommy.
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,036
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    CATCH-22CATCH-22 Member Posts: 270

    VespaPXVespaPX Posts: 4,655Member
    May 28
    hhyftrftdr said:
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    Coming over here, stealing our bets.


    No just the innocence of thousands of young girls


    Sigh



    hhyftrftdr Posts: 6,309Member
    May 28
    VespaPX said:
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    No just the innocence of thousands of young girls.

    Evening Tommy.


    lol
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    MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,534
    Going back a few years, I was working with a bloke from Sheffield, called Javid. On the day in question he explained to me that Ramadan had just started, and what was involved.
    We were working at a resort in Cornwall at the time.
    After I had finished work for the day, I decided to pop into the bar for a quick pint.
    Imagine my surprise when Javid was sat there, tucking into a big plate of fish and chips, whilst drinking a pint of lager.
    I pointed out that this didn't seem much like fasting to me. However he quickly explained that Ramadan was pretty flexible, and you could just add a day or two on at the end.
    I didn't outright call him a liar, but it did seem like a bit of a pitch to me.
    I was with a friend of mine at the time, and for years after, if Ramadan was mentioned, we used to mention to each other how flexible it seemed.
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