Did I play this hand right???

prize66 · August 2018

I was just wondering what people thought about this hand did I play it correctly and just get unlucky to be called or should I of maybe played this hand a little different??? I represented a flush with the A of diamonds flush draw and was called with just top pair and just wondered what peoples view on the hand is thanks

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Limp2Lose	Small blind		500.00	500.00	80574.00
prize66	Big blind		1000.00	1500.00	22085.00
	Your hole cards	A J
Shirley91	Fold
Fulcher	Fold
mkgunner	Fold
RuffRuff	Raise		2096.00	3596.00	84304.00
Limp2Lose	Fold
prize66	Call		1096.00	4692.00	20989.00
Flop
		4 J K
prize66	Bet		3000.00	7692.00	17989.00
RuffRuff	Call		3000.00	10692.00	81304.00
Turn
		6
prize66	All-in		17989.00	28681.00	0.00
RuffRuff	Call		17989.00	46670.00	63315.00
prize66	Show	A J
RuffRuff	Show	Q K
River
		7
RuffRuff	Win	Pair of Kings	46670.00		109985.00

kapowblamz · August 2018

If you're repping the flush then the line you've taken isn't a very believable one. Which would be a good thing if you did have the flush. Just donk betting huge is generally a big no no.

You have showdown value here and plenty of it so you have absolutely no need to bluff. Check calling at !east 2 streets here and probably 3.

Allan23 · August 2018

If it’s a bluff I actually quite like it, blocking but flush and 2 pair combos (hands which are most likely to call your huge jam) but the chances of someone folding a king in most tourneys on sky are slim. What tourney were you playing? As kapowblamz says though you have a pretty perfect candidate for a check call check call line

MattBates · August 2018

You say you represented the flush but would you play the nut flush this way? You have led into the pre flop aggressor and then have shoved when the draw has come in?
Our hand seems a very good one to be check calling the flop or to be playing more aggressively pre flop. When we lead the flop I think generally we are folding the hands that we beat and getting called by worse.

prize66 · August 2018

Allan23 said:
If it’s a bluff I actually quite like it, blocking but flush and 2 pair combos (hands which are most likely to call your huge jam) but the chances of someone folding a king in most tourneys on sky are slim. What tourney were you playing? As kapowblamz says though you have a pretty perfect candidate for a check call check call line

I was in the sunday major and guy in hand against me was chip leader and was loosing chips because he was raising pre flop with every hand he had which is why i only called preflop and went agressive post. thanks for the tips

prize66 · August 2018

MattBates said:
You say you represented the flush but would you play the nut flush this way? You have led into the pre flop aggressor and then have shoved when the draw has come in?
Our hand seems a very good one to be check calling the flop or to be playing more aggressively pre flop. When we lead the flop I think generally we are folding the hands that we beat and getting called by worse.

As i just put I didnt raise preflop becuase of way other player had been playing and during the table i had won with a few flushes where I bet on the flush draw then bet the flush and showed some folds to allow me to play hands such as this one but cant remember if he was on the table then. thanks for the tips

Jacquelyn · August 2018

Ok,

So I haven't read the other comments as didn't want to be influenced by them... but here are some things to consider first off for this hand....

a) your stack size compared to opponents stack size before anything happens
b) position/the inital pf action
c) Your big move on the turn

Firstly, we can see that the opponent is on the button and has 4 x your stack size. I am not too sure as to the dynamics of where you are in the tournament at this stage, or your opponents pf raising range (loose/tight?) but I may even consider jamming with AJ here pre flop if they have been raising a lot from this position - he may call (in which case you would be 59% favourite), or he may fold in which case you win a 3500 pot. I am sure that in most cases AJ is beating his raising range from the button.

If you don't jam, then its flat (like you did) or re-raise. Re-raising to around 6000/7000 will make your hand look strong and put him in a sticky spot (you'd be calling his jam if he went all in).

If you flat like you did, then he probably assumes he has the best hand - definitely so when he sees the flop. I would say for sure, when he see's this flop, he isn't folding to anything you do (due to your stack size and the pre flop betting) unless an ace was to come on the turn, or turn AND river were diamond, diamond. IF you had re-raised pre flop there may be a tiny bit of doubt in his mind that he isn't winning (losing to a set, AK or AA).

Your big mistake however, is obviously jamming the turn. I appreciate at the time you obviously didn't think he had the king, but you must also try and put your opponent on a hand - what do you think he had?

Jamming here with only the draw (you are now only 29% to win the hand) is very aggressive, but you will always be called by KQ.

So lots of options... sorry for in depth analysis. I think in conclusion I would have either jammed pre flop, or tried to keep the pot small on flop, turn and river, in the hope the AJ was good.

Now i'm going to read the other comments and see how wrong I am haha!

prize66 · August 2018

Jacquelyn said:
Ok,

So I haven't read the other comments as didn't want to be influenced by them... but here are some things to consider first off for this hand....

a) your stack size compared to opponents stack size before anything happens
b) position/the inital pf action
c) Your big move on the turn

Firstly, we can see that the opponent is on the button and has 4 x your stack size. I am not too sure as to the dynamics of where you are in the tournament at this stage, or your opponents pf raising range (loose/tight?) but I may even consider jamming with AJ here pre flop if they have been raising a lot from this position - he may call (in which case you would be 59% favourite), or he may fold in which case you win a 3500 pot. I am sure that in most cases AJ is beating his raising range from the button.

If you don't jam, then its flat (like you did) or re-raise. Re-raising to around 6000/7000 will make your hand look strong and put him in a sticky spot (you'd be calling his jam if he went all in).

If you flat like you did, then he probably assumes he has the best hand - definitely so when he sees the flop. I would say for sure, when he see's this flop, he isn't folding to anything you do (due to your stack size and the pre flop betting) unless an ace was to come on the turn, or turn AND river were diamond, diamond. IF you had re-raised pre flop there may be a tiny bit of doubt in his mind that he isn't winning (losing to a set, AK or AA).

Your big mistake however, is obviously jamming the turn. I appreciate at the time you obviously didn't think he had the king, but you must also try and put your opponent on a hand - what do you think he had?

Jamming here with only the draw (you are now only 29% to win the hand) is very aggressive, but you will always be called by KQ.

So lots of options... sorry for in depth analysis. I think in conclusion I would have either jammed pre flop, or tried to keep the pot small on flop, turn and river, in the hope the AJ was good.

Now i'm going to read the other comments and see how wrong I am haha!

thanks for the advice. I did think he may have the king but I was sure he wasnt having more than a single pair because he was playing very loose and was much bigger stack earlier that he had lost due to raising n re raising with hand such as Q 6 off etc. I had also previously showed winning hands when receiving folds on similar flush hands so personally I was only expecting to be called by 2 pair or better and if that were case id still have the chance of getting lucky with an A J or diamond on river but I didnt expect a single pair to call in that situation.

Jacquelyn · August 2018

I think it's quite naive to think that he wouldn't call with 'just top pair' here... I probably would have called in his spot too because a) it looks like you were bluffing b) top pair has a good chance of being the winning hand here and c) he has more than enough chips left even if he is behind.

F_Ivanovic · September 2018

If you had AdTx your play here would be fine - you get better hands to fold (Jx, QQ, smaller pairs) and have outs if called. Problem is here you aren't really folding anything better. If I was him I probably would be folding KQ here w/o a diamond though - I think his call is pretty bad. But even so, your hand still plays better to x/c because it's a great bluff-catcher hand.

Did I play this hand right???

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