10 10 UTG blinds 400/800 in the tournement

craigcu12

at the time i was 15th with 30 left in.
i tried bluffing on the flop but when i saw the raise i thought right away the villian has an A.
during preflop would it have been best to just fold this hand or should i have shoved right away or would a call have been the best and just hope for lower cards or a 10.

damion1985	Small blind		400.00	400.00	38004.50
AngieH	Big blind		800.00	1200.00	11305.00
	Your hole cards	10 10
craigcu12	Raise		1600.00	2800.00	9597.50
charlarchy	Fold
JuanLennon	Fold
xxMONSTERx	Call		1600.00	4400.00	9634.75
damion1985	Call		1200.00	5600.00	36804.50
AngieH	Call		800.00	6400.00	10505.00
Flop
		A 3 8
damion1985	Check
AngieH	Check
craigcu12	Bet		4800.00	11200.00	4797.50
xxMONSTERx	All-in		9634.75	20834.75	0.00
damion1985	Call		9634.75	30469.50	27169.75
AngieH	Fold
craigcu12	Fold

bearlyther

Jam pre we have 11 bigs

Lambert180

Yeah just jam pre.

DOHHHHHHH

We have 14 blinds to start the hand, utg, Tens. ughhh

Awkward.

Jamming is fine ofc.

Would jam just coz everything else suxxxxxxxxxxx, can min raise though.

Don't bet that much of your stack on the flop and then fold. You've almost priced yourself in to call off for 2 outs!

I'd give up here 4 ways on the flop, and play on with 12xbb.

If this is how the table had been playing, an open jam becomes a much better option.

loololollo

lol dont fold the tens jam 'em 

NColley

In Response to Re: 10 10 UTG blinds 400/800 in the tournement:

We have 14 blinds to start the hand, utg, Tens. ughhh Awkward. Jamming is fine ofc. Would jam just coz everything else suxxxxxxxxxxx, can min raise though. Don't bet that much of your stack on the flop and then fold. You've almost priced yourself in to call off for 2 outs! I'd give up here 4 ways on the flop, and play on with 12xbb. If this is how the table had been playing, an open jam becomes a much better option.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Ya, agree with everything

Shoving with TT from UTG is pretty optimal preflop.

Postflop 4 way, someone is going to have that Ace, it's just really likely so I'd be check/folding.

Mohican

Bob Marley time pre flop.

BorinLoner

I wouldn't jam this deep pre-flop from UTG. For 14BB I think we're only going to be called when dominated or flipping and the blinds aren't quite significant enough, to my mind, at 11% of our stack. I think for 12BB I'd shove but 14BB is just too much. It's got to be a pretty tight decision.

I'd min-raise and call a shove if it comes. Definitely check back on this flop, though: If we have the best hand, everything weaker folds and if we are behind nothing tha beats us folds. So don't bet the flop. Try to check it down for a cheap showdown.

14BB... really annoying stack. As DOHHHHHHH says: "Awkward"

rancid

If you think you'll get shoved on by worse and will not be called by Ax/Kx hands then min raise is fine


Looking at the table, jamming is best - let them call and make mistakes
If you get called by better prs then ul, what you going to do fold 10's 6 max !!

By min raising your letting people in to see a flop, and you don't really wana see a flop oop with 10's.
What the best for you, someone shoves worse or someone stacks a 9 high flop with A9!

craigcu12

the bubble wiill burst 25th
the villians them selves held these hands but had i shoved preflop and with the bubble being near would the AKo have went for the fold knowing his stack was almost identical to mine the Q5s i am certain would fold as he was only likely chasing a flush or Q.

x	Show	Q 5
x	Show	K A
Turn
		2
River
		4
damion1985	Win	Straight to the 5	30469.50		57639.25

rancid

if you shove you want Q5 to call and AK to fold )

But if AK calls then - all is good

Mohican

The fact that it's very close shouldn't be influencing your decision here. Either it's the correct play or it isn't.

craigcu12

In Response to Re: 10 10 UTG blinds 400/800 in the tournement:

The fact that it's very close shouldn't be influencing your decision here. Either it's the correct play or it isn't.
Posted by Mohican

the reason i asked it was although a BH has lots more loose callers chasing head prizes, with the tournament now being close to the bubble would many villians with AK see the call as too big a risk knowing his full stack is at risk preflop?
i remember doing a shove with 99 a few hands earlier which got no callers, but they might all have had rubbish anyway.

Lambert180

Shove with TT here, if they fold AK that's good for us, if they call with AK, that's good for us too.

GREGHOGG

What JJ said

bearlyther

id prefer a min raise if we were on the button to induce something from the blinds but because were utg shoving is the only thing we can do here