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Pre flop with jacks in position 4nl

Dav56Dav56 Member Posts: 10
edited March 2013 in The Poker Clinic
In this hand i hand pocket jacks on the button and there was an original raise with a caller.  I pretty much always 3bet with jacks in position in 4nl, and with another caller and the blinds to follow i decided to 3bet in this position both for value and to isolate a player, is this the wrong play, is calling and set mining a better move here?

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceSniper001Small blind £0.02£0.02£11.24SteverawBig blind £0.04£0.06£2.32 Your hole cardsJJ   murphy147Fold    ICE_MAN_29Raise £0.20£0.26£1.96jimmyjam04Call £0.20£0.46£4.59Dav56Raise £0.68£1.14£3.20Sniper001Fold    SteverawCall £0.64£1.78£1.68ICE_MAN_29Call £0.48£2.26£1.48jimmyjam04Call £0.48£2.74£4.11Flop  7KQ   SteverawBet £0.12£2.86£1.56ICE_MAN_29All-in £1.48£4.34£0.00jimmyjam04Fold    Dav56Fold    SteverawCall £1.36£5.70£0.20SteverawShowQ3   ICE_MAN_29ShowKQ   Turn  A   River  J   ICE_MAN_29WinTwo Pairs, Kings and Queens£5.27 £5.27

Comments

  • bencbenc Member Posts: 1,059
    edited February 2013
    Yeah preflop i'm 3betting the button here with JJ a large percentage of the time, maybe some very specific table dynamics such as wanting to try and trap a super aggro player or knowing that the biggest nit on the table has just raised for the first time in about an hour would make me flat in that spot.

    However i definetly prefer the 3bet in general as a button 3bet is generally not going be given credit for such a big hand and as you say you are going for value and to isolate a specific player. Also if you flat and everyone gets involved you may find yourself in a very tough spot if 3 lower cards hit the flop and you see aload of action e.g not knowing whether they have flopped two pair with junk or are just overplaying top pair etc.

    I don't play cash that often but i read alot in here about making the raise sizing bigger pre at 4nl as they like to call anyway, so i may of made the 3bet bigger, probably closer to £1. Easy flop to fold considering the action and just ignore the river as it makes no difference to what was a good bet pre flop and a good fold post flop in my opinion.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2013
    Your play and logic is perfect. 

    Knew the J was coming otr tho! ;)

    Well played, 
  • skeg_pokerskeg_poker Member Posts: 175
    edited March 2013
    Played perfectly imo, just a terrible flop for your jacks haha.

    On the other hand though, it was obvious the jack was coming on the river so it's a call all day long ;) hahaha.
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