In Response to Re: Unspoken rules at 4nl? : Not at all, the fact they have no idea what they are doing makes it harder. Roll on the week when i can go back to beating the bad regs Posted by calcalfold
Once id have said the same.
Seriously go play Tintin repeatedly get in hands with him and tell me its easier playing him than limp min bet cal min bet casll min bet call.
last year i would have said the same myself but all it takes is a few months worth of very tight aggressive play and it will change as villians will more and more often fold a bet on the flop if the call they will continue to call and if they get their two pair you will know right away as they will shove most of the time. the frustation i have is just the fact they get too passive so i waste lot of good hands.
In Response to Re: Unspoken rules at 4nl? : Once id have said the same. Seriously go play Tintin repeatedly get in hands with him and tell me its easier playing him than limp min bet cal min bet casll min bet call. Posted by The_Don90
Tintin is easy to play against fold if he bets lol.
i take my words back as although they fold frop the preflop they will call anyday and i lost £4 with KKvs QQ 1010 and A10s what happen was the straight to the j was hit.
In Response to Re: Unspoken rules at 4nl? : Once id have said the same. Seriously go play Tintin repeatedly get in hands with him and tell me its easier playing him than limp min bet cal min bet casll min bet call. Posted by The_Don90
In Response to Re: Unspoken rules at 4nl? : TinTin is the one reg that isnt bad Fact Posted by calcalfold
Thats the whole point. You try to take money off tintin bar coolering him you aint gonna get it. However v opponents who are making some mistakes we can make lots of cash.
In Response to Re: Unspoken rules at 4nl? : Thats the whole point. You try to take money off tintin bar coolering him you aint gonna get it. However v opponents who are making some mistakes we can make lots of cash. Posted by The_Don90
No, you have missed my point, I will try and simplify
For me, playing my usual game
Easy to beat long term: Most semi regs or bad regs (at 4nl), multitabling. As I can generally use multiple levels of poker thought to beat them - This is where most of my profit comes from as its often easy to see their mistakes and adapt accordingly.
Hard to beat: The Sunday droolers that just mash buttons depending on the direction of the wind. Hard to assign reliable ranges means difficult to determine if I need to be value betting/pot controllong/folding etc. Not saying I dont win against these players, but it is a high variance route.
Yes it is a high variance route, but the fault is with your game not theirs. You don't need to use multiple levels of poker thought at this level, in fact it is probably a bad thing to even employ 2 levels deep of thought.
Keep it simple, bet your big hands, don't bluff and if you see someone raising weak regularly or if you meet a calling station, fill your boots. You may lose a buy in or two due to variance, but if you can't win at this level it's your fault not theirs.
Yes it is a high variance route, but the fault is with your game not theirs. You don't need to use multiple levels of poker thought at this level, in fact it is probably a bad thing to even employ 2 levels deep of thought. Keep it simple, bet your big hands, don't bluff and if you see someone raising weak regularly or if you meet a calling station, fill your boots. You may lose a buy in or two due to variance, but if you can't win at this level it's your fault not theirs. Posted by FCHD
i take my words back as although they fold frop the preflop they will call anyday and i lost £4 with KKvs QQ 1010 and A10s what happen was the straight to the j was hit. Posted by craigcu12
Yeh, sorry about that craig but i was calling all day there with A10s, purely for value, cos has has already been stated on numerous threads i could be up against absolutely anything.
I am very good at football, im so good infact that we need to win 5 games to win a cup. We where given the choice between playing the local sunday league teams or barca, real, man utd, man city and bayern. We chose the latter cause they wud be "easier" to beat
In Response to Re: Unspoken rules at 4nl? : Yeh, sorry about that craig but i was calling all day there with A10s, purely for value, cos has has already been stated on numerous threads i could be up against absolutely anything. Posted by pomfrittes
well 9 time out of 10 you are going to be putting yourself in danger when facing myself with a shove preflop if you ever going to stand a chance of being ahead it is a pair v my AK or AQ.
Have I missed something, on Sunday are you legally required to... 1. Call any hand for any amount pre flop and 2. Min donk bet whatever you hit and then never fold I think its harder to win at weekends, its just impossible to put most of these people on a range. Posted by calcalfold
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Not at all, the fact they have no idea what they are doing makes it harder.
Roll on the week when i can go back to beating the bad regs
last year i would have said the same myself but all it takes is a few months worth of very tight aggressive play and it will change as villians will more and more often fold a bet on the flop if the call they will continue to call and if they get their two pair you will know right away as they will shove most of the time.
the frustation i have is just the fact they get too passive so i waste lot of good hands.
Tintin is easy to play against fold if he bets lol.
Note I said easy to play against, not easy to felt.
TinTin is the one reg that isnt bad
Fact
For me, playing my usual game
Easy to beat long term: Most semi regs or bad regs (at 4nl), multitabling. As I can generally use multiple levels of poker thought to beat them - This is where most of my profit comes from as its often easy to see their mistakes and adapt accordingly.
Hard to beat: The Sunday droolers that just mash buttons depending on the direction of the wind. Hard to assign reliable ranges means difficult to determine if I need to be value betting/pot controllong/folding etc. Not saying I dont win against these players, but it is a high variance route.
Keep it simple, bet your big hands, don't bluff and if you see someone raising weak regularly or if you meet a calling station, fill your boots. You may lose a buy in or two due to variance, but if you can't win at this level it's your fault not theirs.
Suggest reading threads slowly next time, taking more time to notice the context.