Call or fold flop shove?

skeg_poker

Is this a call or a fold after villian 3bet shoves after the flop?

Seat 1: babkiu (£4.26 in chips)
Seat 3: Jabatzsti (£2.13 in chips)
Seat 5: grrrrinda (£4.00 in chips)
Seat 6: takika21 (£9.38 in chips)
Seat 8: krasata (£8.03 in chips)
Seat 10: Me (£6.63 in chips)

krasata: SB £0.02
Me: BB £0.04

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Me [8h 7h]

babkiu: Call £0.04
Jabatzsti: Fold
takika21: Raise To £0.08
krasata: Call £0.06
Me: Call £0.04
babkiu: Call £0.04

*** FLOP *** [8s 5c 6h]

krasata: Check
Me: Check
babkiu: Check
takika21: Bet £0.24
krasata: Fold
Me: Raise To £0.64
babkiu: Fold
takika21: Raise To £9.30 (all in)
Me: ??

I've got top pair and an open ended straight draw, is it a call or a fold? I put him on an overpair, so it's basically a coin flip isn't it? I will post results later, this hand will be going in my diary anyway the result will be in that.

craigcu12

could i just ask what it is you do to post the hand onto the forum

skeg_poker

In Response to Re: Call or fold flop shove?:

could i just ask what it is you do to post the hand onto the forum
Posted by craigcu12

 
I go to the hand history on titan, save it as text onto my laptop, then i copy and paste the text onto this lol. Only way i can do it as i still can't find a hand converter that works for titan

craigcu12

so it's not from sky this hand.

skeg_poker

I don't play here remember as it crashes my laptop and disconnects all the time lol. But they're is some good players on here that give great advice etc so i stayed on this forum for that

Lambert180

It's not a coin flip sadly. If he has 99+ you're crushed and only have about 30% of winning. If he has a set, you have even less chance. If he has a straight you have even less chance again.

The only hands you're flipping with are 56, 58, 68 and A8 everything else is gonna have you crushed unless he's a real spewer and can turn up with really junk hands

skeg_poker

In Response to Re: Call or fold flop shove?:

It's not a coin flip sadly. If he has 99+ you're crushed and only have about 30% of winning. If he has a set, you have even less chance. If he has a straight you have even less chance again. The only hands you're flipping with are 56, 58, 68 and A8 everything else is gonna have you crushed unless he's a real spewer and can turn up with really junk hands
Posted by Lambert180

I'm certain that an overpair to that flop is a coin flip? I have top pair, an open ended straight draw and a backdoor flush draw as well, so i have 14 outs twice don't i?

It was unlikely he had 4,7 or 7,9 for the straight given he raised pre-flop but a set was possible i guess, i just didn't put him on it, i was certain he had an overpair after he shoved the flop, i've seen him slowplay flopped sets a couple of times lol.

percival09

yeah vs 1010+ youre pretty much flipping

I prob fold cos we're like 150bb deep and we can prob find a better spot to win moniez at this limitven though I hate raise/folding a hand w/ a lot of equity. I also just flat call otf, we have v.good equity but we don't really want what happened to happen, we can play smallball multiway innit

skeg_poker

In Response to Re: Call or fold flop shove?:

yeah vs 1010+ youre pretty much flipping I prob fold cos we're like 150bb deep and we can prob find a better spot to win moniez at this limitven though I hate raise/folding a hand w/ a lot of equity. I also just flat call otf, we have v.good equity but we don't really want what happened to happen, we can play smallball multiway innit
Posted by percival09

Yes, i was thinking that but i decided to take a gamble with it (who doesn't love a gamble eh? :P) i raised the flop as it could have easily been a standard c-bet with air, so by raising i could have taken the pot down right there. But obviously he shoves over the top of me and leaves me with a decision to make haha.

I made the call, and rivered the 4 for the straight so the gamble paid off at least lol.