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Big Shoves

10NGY10NGY Member Posts: 108
edited March 2013 in The Poker Clinic
Been playing in the mini tonight and had a couple times now people have shoved over 20BB with no action before hand. I had JJ and folded as we're under 10 handed now and would have been eliminated if I lost.

What are people's usual experiences from these hands? I normally end up seeing 99 1010 at lower levels but not reached this level in a large tourny before.
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  • 10NGY10NGY Member Posts: 108
    edited March 2013
    To add some background, I think he was 2nd UTG and I was just behind at a 6 handed table. There are no short stack at the table he is trying to scalp either. Wouldn't he play AA KK QQ with more deception? ie look for action?
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  • 10NGY10NGY Member Posts: 108
    edited March 2013
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    AJ_EVERTON Small blind   2500.00 2500.00 159037.46
    henners10 Big blind   5000.00 7500.00 171095.58
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
    		     
    kennyglb3 Fold        
    johnydec All-in   114815.91 122315.91 0.00
    10NGY Fold        
    AJ_EVERTON Fold        
    henners10 Fold        
    johnydec Muck        
    johnydec Win   12500.00   12500.00
    johnydec Return   109815.91 0.00 122315.91
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
    edited March 2013

    Insta reshove. I'm never folding jacks in this spot so late on in a tournament. A lot of the time we are a mile ahead, if your up against a k a q, then weve got it in slightly ahead.

    Just unlucky if were up against a higher pair.

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  • 10NGY10NGY Member Posts: 108
    edited March 2013
    In Response to Re: Big Shoves:
    Insta reshove. I'm never folding jacks in this spot so late on in a tournament. A lot of the time we are a mile ahead, if your up against a k a q, then weve got it in slightly ahead. Just unlucky if were up against a higher pair.
    Posted by LARSON7
    I guess its my first time this deep in a proper tourny and worried he would have me beat with QQ+

    Will learn a lesson but did make final table though! Which is great cause I got entry through the fbook comp.
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
    edited March 2013
    That was just my opinion haha, if you laddered up then great.

    What did you cash for?
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  • 10NGY10NGY Member Posts: 108
    edited March 2013
    In Response to Re: Big Shoves:
    That was just my opinion haha, if you laddered up then great. What did you cash for?
    Posted by LARSON7
    £100. Very pleased as I'd lost my teeny roll last week! Was looking for a way to get back in.
    This was my first major cash. Well, major for me!
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
    edited March 2013
    £100 on a freerole very nice indeed. Well done buddy
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  • 10NGY10NGY Member Posts: 108
    edited March 2013
    In Response to Re: Big Shoves:
    £100 on a freerole very nice indeed. Well done buddy
    Posted by LARSON7
    Must say it does feel deserved though. Had some bad beats lately and really done some studying and stuff so I like to think it paid off... Saying that though I did sucker someone with 99 vs KK at around 40 left! 
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited March 2013
    In Response to Re: Big Shoves:
    In Response to Re: Big Shoves : Must say it does feel deserved though. Had some bad beats lately and really done some studying and stuff so I like to think it paid off... Saying that though I did sucker someone with 99 vs KK at around 40 left! 
    Posted by 10NGY
    Its very rare that you will go deep in a tourny without a little bit of luck. I don't think i have ever final tabled a MT with a decent sized field without getting my money in bad atleast once. Good that you realised it happend thats the varience in MTT
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  • bbMikebbMike Member Posts: 3,717
    edited March 2013
    The moral of the story here is never play with the laptop on the table whilst you're having dinner with the kids!

    My thought process was literally, 'ok then let's race, I'm busy here - best case you've got AQ, but more likely a mid to low pair' - I (like you) thought there was no way people would risk everyone folding to their premium pair. Live 'n learn. Nice to have a couple of outs on the river...

    Still, it meant I could concentrate on dessert.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    alexan1960 Small blind   20.00 20.00 1710.00
    xx Big blind   40.00 60.00 1645.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
    		     
    070290 Fold        
    sumogaz Fold        
    bbMike Raise   120.00 180.00 2110.00
    tex4444 Fold        
    alexan1960 Fold        
    xx
    		 All-in   1645.00 1825.00 0.00
    bbMike Call   1565.00 3390.00 545.00
    xx
    		 Show
    • A
    • A
    		     
    bbMike Show
    • K
    • A
    		     
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • 3
    • J
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 10
    		     
    River
       
    • 9
    		     
    xx
    		 Win Pair of Aces 3390.00   3390.00
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited March 2013
    easy call there with jacks
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