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Advice please

_G__G_ Member Posts: 172
edited March 2013 in The Poker Clinic
I don't normally post on the clinic, i have but got ripped apart by someone and said to myself what's the point.

i played these two hands yesterday, and i relay want to know what i did wrong.

istory #632295377 (19:37 13/03/2013)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceSeptember7Small blind £0.02£0.02£7.47calcalfoldBig blind £0.04£0.06£3.96SNOOPY616_Big blind £0.04£0.10£3.16 Your hole cardsJK   _G_Call £0.04£0.14£1.61TINTINFold    SNOOPY616_Check    mush1098Call £0.04£0.18£4.14September7Call £0.02£0.20£7.45calcalfoldCheck    Flop  JK9   September7Bet £0.10£0.30£7.35calcalfoldFold    _G_Raise £0.50£0.80£1.11SNOOPY616_Call £0.50£1.30£2.66mush1098Fold    September7Fold    Turn  7   _G_All-in £1.11£2.41£0.00SNOOPY616_Call £1.11£3.52£1.55_G_ShowJK   SNOOPY616_Show85   River  2   SNOOPY616_WinFlush to the Jack£3.25 £4.80


History #632281159 (19:12 13/03/2013)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceSeptember7Small blind £0.02£0.02£3.94calcalfoldBig blind £0.04£0.06£3.92 Your hole cardsAA   _G_Raise £0.16£0.22£4.72TINTINFold    POWERFULLFold    mush1098Call £0.16£0.38£2.66September7Fold    calcalfoldFold    Flop  397  <td class="hhamt" style="padding-right:5px;padding-left:5px;font-weight:normal;font-size:0.9em;padding-bottom:7px;margin:0px;vertical-align:middle;padding-top:7px;font-family:verdana;text-align

Comments

  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited March 2013
    Hand 1 - Firstly open limping is terrible, either fold the hand or raise it (I personally I raise to 16-20p here). After that you played it perfect. Raise the flop when you're very likely to have the best hand on a very wet board so there will be TONS of hands happy to come along. Then ship the turn is your only option, you just got unlucky.

    Hand 2 - Perfect example of why you shouldn't limp the first hand... you limp with KJo but raise 4x with AA. It won't be long before people realise that you limping means a marginal hand, and you raising means a strong one.

    Raise size fine though. Flop bet size is a bit big, once he raises I think it's fine to just get it in like you did given how little he has behind. Again you got unlucky.

    So one or two small mistakes but on the whole it was just a case of getting unlucky in these 2 hands.
  • _G__G_ Member Posts: 172
    edited March 2013
    Thanks

    kj hand not sure what to do pre, so i just called to see where i was, once i hit the hand i went for it, but i take on board what you say, fold or put a good bet in at the start, once again thanks

    Glen
  • bbMikebbMike Member Posts: 3,717
    edited March 2013
    Don't limp in to find out where you are, it achieves the opposite! You are now out of position against someone who could be holding literally any two cards. Don't be fooled by your hand looking pretty, if you're not confident playing out of position just bin it - it costs you the SB but you were just as likely to be dealt 8 2 here, as it is it can cost you far more when you think you're ahead but have no way of assigning ranges to your oppo. Here, your two pair is very likely good on the flop, but that's almost beside the point.
  • _G__G_ Member Posts: 172
    edited March 2013
    thanks point taken, be aware of it from now on thanks again.

    Glen
  • clubhammerclubhammer Member Posts: 109
    edited March 2013
    In Response to Re: Advice please:
    Don't limp in to find out where you are, it achieves the opposite! You are now out of position against someone who could be holding literally any two cards. Don't be fooled by your hand looking pretty, if you're not confident playing out of position just bin it - it costs you the SB but you were just as likely to be dealt 8 2 here, as it is it can cost you far more when you think you're ahead but have no way of assigning ranges to your oppo. Here, your two pair is very likely good on the flop, but that's almost beside the point.
    Posted by bbMike
    I don't disagree with what you say - but- Good luck with assigning ranges at 4nl !
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