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2p-4p challenge

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  • WilhelmWilhelm Member Posts: 1,730
    edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: 2p-4p challenge:
    Boom, any 4nl players interested in getting into this again, lets get it going:d
    Posted by LARSON7
    Tonight I played NL4 properly for the first time in about a year, so may as well join in.  Let me go fetch a hand I played against you, it's the only interesting one I played all night.
  • WilhelmWilhelm Member Posts: 1,730
    edited June 2013

    4tabled for 4 hours tonight.  I was breaking even for most of the night until a couple big hands near the end in which I won a couple buyins.

    Profit£8.05
    Hands Played1153
    The most interesting hands were played against LARSON7 after developing a dynamic last night in the forum cash game.  In this hand I decided he hardly ever has a flush here and I never have a decent one, so I station, obvs.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    AyrGraeme Small blind £0.02 £0.02 £5.06
    Wilhelm Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £7.24
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 10
         
    TOD19 Fold     
    LARSON7 Raise  £0.12 £0.18 £7.40
    AyrGraeme Fold     
    Wilhelm Call  £0.08 £0.26 £7.16
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 6
    • K
         
    Wilhelm Check     
    LARSON7 Bet  £0.13 £0.39 £7.27
    Wilhelm Call  £0.13 £0.52 £7.03
    Turn
       
    • 8
         
    Wilhelm Check     
    LARSON7 Check     
    River
       
    • 6
         
    Wilhelm Check     
    LARSON7 Bet  £0.26 £0.78 £7.01
    Wilhelm Call  £0.26 £1.04 £6.77
    LARSON7 Show
    • J
    • 7
       
    Wilhelm Show
    • A
    • 10
       
    Wilhelm Win Two Pairs, 10s and 6s £0.96  £7.73
    In this hand I fold the nut straight.  No reads other than at NL4 he always has it here, doesn't he?  I dunno, I haven't played NL4 in a year, maybe things have changed.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    mazza75 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £2.93
    chancjr Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £5.30
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • Q
         
    xxx Call  £0.04 £0.10 £9.38
    adamdela15 Fold     
    xxx Call  £0.04 £0.14 £3.94
    Wilhelm Raise  £0.20 £0.34 £3.82
    mazza75 Fold     
    chancjr Fold     
    xxx Call  £0.16 £0.50 £9.22
    xxxCall  £0.16 £0.66 £3.78
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 10
    • J
         
    xxx Check     
    xxx Check     
    Wilhelm Bet  £0.40 £1.06 £3.42
    xxx Call  £0.40 £1.46 £8.82
    xxxCall  £0.40 £1.86 £3.38
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    xxx Check     
    xxxCheck     
    Wilhelm Bet  £0.99 £2.85 £2.43
    xxxCall  £0.99 £3.84 £7.83
    xxx Fold     
    River
       
    • 2
         
    xxx All-in  £7.83 £11.67 £0.00
    Wilhelm Fold     
    xxxMuck     
    xxx Win  £3.55  £3.55
    xxx Return  £7.83 £0.29 £11.38
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: 2p-4p challenge:
    4tabled for 4 hours tonight.  I was breaking even for most of the night until a couple big hands near the end in which I won a couple buyins. Profit £8.05 Hands Played 1153 The most interesting hands were played against LARSON7 after developing a dynamic last night in the forum cash game.  In this hand I decided he hardly ever has a flush here and I never have a decent one, so I station, obvs. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance AyrGraeme Small blind £0.02 £0.02 £5.06 Wilhelm Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £7.24   Your hole cards A 10       TOD19 Fold         LARSON7 Raise   £0.12 £0.18 £7.40 AyrGraeme Fold         Wilhelm Call   £0.08 £0.26 £7.16 Flop     10 6 K       Wilhelm Check         LARSON7 Bet   £0.13 £0.39 £7.27 Wilhelm Call   £0.13 £0.52 £7.03 Turn     8       Wilhelm Check         LARSON7 Check         River     6       Wilhelm Check         LARSON7 Bet   £0.26 £0.78 £7.01 Wilhelm Call   £0.26 £1.04 £6.77 LARSON7 Show J 7       Wilhelm Show A 10       Wilhelm Win Two Pairs, 10s and 6s £0.96   £7.73 In this hand I fold the nut straight.  No reads other than at NL4 he always has it here, doesn't he?  I dunno, I haven't played NL4 in a year, maybe things have changed. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance mazza75 Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £2.93 chancjr Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £5.30   Your hole cards K Q       xxx  Call   £0.04 £0.10 £9.38 adamdela15 Fold         xxx  Call   £0.04 £0.14 £3.94 Wilhelm Raise   £0.20 £0.34 £3.82 mazza75 Fold         chancjr Fold         xxx  Call   £0.16 £0.50 £9.22 xxx Call   £0.16 £0.66 £3.78 Flop     5 10 J       xxx  Check         xxx  Check         Wilhelm Bet   £0.40 £1.06 £3.42 xxx  Call   £0.40 £1.46 £8.82 xxx Call   £0.40 £1.86 £3.38 Turn     9       xxx  Check         xxx Check         Wilhelm Bet   £0.99 £2.85 £2.43 xxx Call   £0.99 £3.84 £7.83 xxx  Fold         River     2       xxx  All-in   £7.83 £11.67 £0.00 Wilhelm Fold         xxx Muck         xxx  Win   £3.55   £3.55 xxx  Return   £7.83 £0.29 £11.38
    Posted by Wilhelm
    Verus me first hand, I played it terrible, I needed to bet the turn! As played, I would have called the river too.

    2nd hand, yeah looks like a fold without any reads. Would be really unusual for them not to have it here, unless it's a total maniac.

    2 buy ins, good going. Where do you normally play?


  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited June 2013

    2p-4nl seems to be a lot harder in the last couple of weeks, sinse that challenge in May.

    I used to make profit consistantly and easily, now it's a lot more difficult.

    Today, i made a profit after 2 hours of play! Of a whole buy in.

    Started off up, then lost a big pot with 2 pair versus flush. Grinded it back up.

    Best hand, and prob largest post was this one here; opponent didn't mind getting it in, was happy to just open shove flop was confident he was callin, couldnt put him on straight!

    LARSON7 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £5.21
    GoonerMoff Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £5.97
      Your hole cards
    • 5
    • 8
         
    BAITRUNNER Raise  £0.08 £0.14 £28.93
    LARSON7 Call  £0.06 £0.20 £5.15
    GoonerMoff Call  £0.04 £0.24 £5.93
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 7
    • 6
         
    LARSON7 Bet  £0.18 £0.42 £4.97
    GoonerMoff Call  £0.18 £0.60 £5.75
    BAITRUNNER Raise  £0.96 £1.56 £27.97
    LARSON7 All-in  £4.97 £6.53 £0.00
    GoonerMoff Fold     
    BAITRUNNER Call  £4.19 £10.72 £23.78
    LARSON7 Show
    • 5
    • 8
       
    BAITRUNNER Show
    • 9
    • 8
       
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    River
       
    • K
         
    LARSON7 Win Straight Flush to the 8 £9.91
    This hand here, i thought Wilhelm was weak in the hand! Then when he calls the turn, i'm so close to giving up but the river was a brilliant card to rep the straight, and i cant put him on a Queen.
    GoonerMoff Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.81
    LARSON7 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.63
      Your hole cards
    • 4
    • 6
         
    luckyjimbo Fold     
    Wilhelm Raise  £0.12 £0.18 £3.96
    chancjr Fold     
    GoonerMoff Fold     
    LARSON7 Call  £0.08 £0.26 £3.55
    Flop
       
    • A
    • 10
    • K
         
    LARSON7 Check     
    Wilhelm Bet  £0.20 £0.46 £3.76
    LARSON7 Raise  £0.50 £0.96 £3.05
    Wilhelm Call  £0.30 £1.26 £3.46
    Turn
       
    • 2
         
    LARSON7 Bet  £0.63 £1.89 £2.42
    Wilhelm Call  £0.63 £2.52 £2.83
    River
       
    • J
         
    LARSON7 All-in  £2.42 £4.94 £0.00
    Wilhelm Fold     
    LARSON7 Muck     
    LARSON7 Win  £2.33  £2.33
    LARSON7 Return  £2.42
  • WilhelmWilhelm Member Posts: 1,730
    edited June 2013
    Quite a bad night all in all.  After a few set up hands to start the night I was in the red for a couple of buyins until near the end when I managed to get back to even.  Then ran KK into AA and QJ and came out last.  Ended up doing a little under a fiver.
    Profit£3.14
    Hands Played2745
    This hand made me smile.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    duxrs Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.38
    Wilhelm Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £4.17
      Your hole cards
    • 8
    • A
         
    tosca21 Fold     
    ZOLA816 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £4.42
    SALSACITY Call  £0.04 £0.14 £4.97
    stugnu Fold     
    duxrs Fold     
    Wilhelm Check     
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 2
    • J
         
    Wilhelm Check     
    ZOLA816 Bet  £0.04 £0.18 £4.38
    SALSACITY Call  £0.04 £0.22 £4.93
    Wilhelm Call  £0.04 £0.26 £4.13
    Turn
       
    • Q
         
    Wilhelm Check     
    ZOLA816 Check     
    SALSACITY Check     
    River
       
    • 6
         
    Wilhelm Bet  £0.26 £0.52 £3.87
    ZOLA816 Fold     
    SALSACITY Raise  £1.04 £1.56 £3.89
    Wilhelm All-in  £3.87 £5.43 £0.00
    SALSACITY Call  £3.09 £8.52 £0.80
    Wilhelm Show
    • 8
    • A
       
    SALSACITY Show
    • 10
    • 9
       
    SALSACITY Win Straight Flush to the Queen £7.88  £8.68
    Not.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited June 2013
    Ul with that hand pretty sick.

    That was the hand i had Ace of D, 8 clubs, when the flop came down 3 diamonds lol

    You bet pot on the turn and i still called! To brick the river. Blah played it really bad, even if i hit i'm not getting paid, unless you've flopped the King flush. But looked more like a set.


    How do you get number of hands played?
  • WilhelmWilhelm Member Posts: 1,730
    edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: 2p-4p challenge:
    Ul with that hand pretty sick. That was the hand i had Ace of D, 8 clubs, when the flop came down 3 diamonds lol You bet pot on the turn and i still called! To brick the river. Blah played it really bad, even if i hit i'm not getting paid, unless you've flopped the King flush. But looked more like a set. How do you get number of hands played?
    Posted by LARSON7
    Count them.  I wouldn't bother.

    Edit:  Well, I do bother, but I wouldn't recommend bothering.  I'm just a stat freak.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited June 2013

    Surely if you are posting up amount of hands played  you can do a search.



     

  • WilhelmWilhelm Member Posts: 1,730
    edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: 2p-4p challenge:
    Surely if you are posting up amount of hands played  you can do a search.  
    Posted by LARSON7
    No.  I counted them.

    Go into My Account, search Poker for last 24 hours, open up each session, count the hands.

    Except, don't do this.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: 2p-4p challenge:
    In Response to Re: 2p-4p challenge : No.  I counted them. Go into My Account, search Poker for last 24 hours, open up each session, count the hands. Except, don't do this.
    Posted by Wilhelm
    Nice1 you are the carol vonderman of sky poker
  • WilhelmWilhelm Member Posts: 1,730
    edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: 2p-4p challenge:
    In Response to Re: 2p-4p challenge : Nice1 you are the carol vonderman of sky poker
    Posted by LARSON7
    Haha, funny you should say that.  I may be working with her very soon.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited June 2013
    Loose women? lol
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited June 2013
    Why couldn't you put Wilhelm on a Q in that hand? Just out of interest.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited June 2013
    Look at the action, look at his range. It's really unlikely as played, he has a Q in his hand.

    --------------------------


    Didn't play at all today, so tomorrow is the day!
  • calcalfoldcalcalfold Member Posts: 978
    edited June 2013
    Interesting you find 4nl harder recently. A lot of regs from the start of the year are at 10nl now.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited June 2013
    Maaaatte theres 20 million new "regulars", most of them arnt even on the forum. It just general random regs that are total nits and only play with the nuts. 10nl is a lot easier than 4nl.
  • calcalfoldcalcalfold Member Posts: 978
    edited June 2013
    Yea, 10nl can be super loose. This leads to high variance but can be very profitable if the mental approach is right.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited June 2013
    I made a profit today from 4nl!

    2 B I's thanks to the community night.

    Woohoo a profit at last from 4nl, i played terriblebleble
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited June 2013
    There are 2 pretty obvious Qs that he could have, that fit in with the 'action' and his 'range', 

    Granted, it was a better bluff than your 5 high earlier ;)
  • calcalfoldcalcalfold Member Posts: 978
    edited June 2013
    Larson,

    Hope your session was good.

    I enjoyed my 70mins grinding 4nl this eve, a not too shabby £12.50 odd return.

    Makes a nice change from having to actually think at 8/10/20nl.

    I wish I had a better mental game for regging it up at 10nl. Might ease back and come back to 4nl for a the rest of the month.

    Touch wood hoping tonight was not just a run well session.

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