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Call or Fold?

LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
edited March 2013 in The Poker Clinic
Oppo raises all in, i think im getting the odds to call?
 Small blind  40.00 40.00 4896.25
LARSON7 Big blind  80.00 120.00 7585.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • A
     
pokerden08 Call  80.00 200.00 1907.50
andrew1961 Fold     
Derrry Fold     
sniper710 Call  80.00 280.00 1415.00
Veracruz Fold     
LARSON7 Raise  160.00 440.00 7425.00
pokerden08 Call  160.00 600.00 1747.50
sniper710 Call  160.00 760.00 1255.00
Flop
   
  • 4
  • 7
  • 3
     
LARSON7 Bet  380.00 1140.00 7045.00
pokerden08 All-in  1747.50 2887.50 0.00
sniper710 Fold     
LARSON7 Call  1367.50 4255.00 5677.50
LARSON7 Show
  • Q
  • A
   
pokerden08 Show
  • 9
  • 7
   
Turn
   
  • K
     
River
   
  • 8
     
pokerden08 Win Pair of 7s 4255.00
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  • 10NGY10NGY Member Posts: 108
    edited March 2013
    Pot odds are 2:1 and we can assume oppo has a pair on the board or 8s through Js. You're about 4:1 underdog here so I don't think you have the odds mate...
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited March 2013
    Definitely just fold.
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
    edited March 2013

    Use are right lol easy fold

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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited March 2013
    Raise much bigger pre-flop. 3x will just lead to playing multi-way, out of position. Given the respective stack sizes, you should be happy to commit any of them to the pot pre-flop. You can justifiably raise a bit bigger out of position to isolate limpers. Add a premium to the 3x+1 in these situations and don't fold if any of them shove. I'd be making this 440-500 pre-flop.

    On the flop, as the others have said, it's an easy fold. Even if you know your two overcards are live you're not getting the right odds. There's nothing to guarantee that your cards are live, though, and there are very few draws that your opponent can be playing, so you're almost certainly never ahead with AQ.
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,491
    edited March 2013
    Cheers Borin, yeah i dunno why i calculated for what I had in the pot, i had to go for it.

    But like said above i am 4-1 and can never call
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  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited March 2013
    hi Larson7,

    you must work on your pre-flop sizing. you would not end up in a lot of these spots if you raised more aggressively pre-flop. good rule of thumb at early levels is 3x plus 1 for every limper and plus 1 if oop. And then slowly reduce it as blinds get bigger.

    as played easy fold - you asked the question, and got the answer - so listen to it! by which I mean your bet not this post. 
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