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Late position battles with tight regs OOP.
DOHHHHHHH
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Always seem to find myself getting it in too wide against certain players, but the problems stem from my aggressive 3betting range, and understanding the 3b/4b/5b gii dynamic.
Started going wrong when I learnt on here that 3b/folding some hands is just a bad idea, and that if I'm planning on 3b folding then I shouldn't 3b them at all.
Below is a good example of what I mean.
The player is a decent semi reg. He will be opening the button alot especially with an unknown/weaker player in the blinds.
He knows I'm very aggressive, and will know that he's trying to get into pots w/ the fish as much as poss.
He also knows that I know that he knows this 
I just don't think he's ever getting it in with worse than AQ.
He will probably 4b/gii with JJ+ AK and mayyyyyyyybe AQs.
But I'm out of position v him, he plays very solid post flop, do I really want to flat AQ and proceed to c/f loads of flops, or c/c down when I make a pair and sometimes still not be good and/or get very little value anyway?
Flatting sounds horrible (I guess it could bring the bb in, but assume bb is also a reg, now what?)
3b/folding sounds horrible.
3b/5b get it in sounds horrible.
Folding sounds horrible.
Any thoughts on how to play this kinda situation?
What's the best line to take?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DOHHHHHHH | Small blind | £0.15 | £0.15 | £34.94 | |
| BigBlind | Big blind | £0.30 | £0.45 | £26.99 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| looter | Fold | ||||
| AJ_Rockets | Fold | ||||
| xxx | Raise | £0.90 | £1.35 | £60.26 | |
| DOHHHHHHH | Raise | £3.00 | £4.35 | £31.94 | |
| BigBlind | Fold | ||||
| xxx | Raise | £6.75 | £11.10 | £53.51 | |
| DOHHHHHHH |
Comments
The key question is what do we want to happen when we 3-bet?
If he's calling with weaker hands and will fold to further aggression down the streets, then that's a good reason to 3-bet.
If he will call us down light post flop, that's a good reason to 3-bet.
If he's going to call and put us in tricky situations post-flop, that's a good reason to not 3-bet and bloat the pot pre-flop.
If he's going to 4-bet alot but not get it in lighter than AQ, that's a good reason to not 3-bet.
I don't think there's anything wrong with flatting here. Playing out of position is a pain in the backside, especially against good players. If he doesn't pay us off with worse often enough when we 3-bet, then we shouldn't 3-bet. He's not folding better hands than AQ, after all.