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how to NOT play KK
devonfish5
Member Posts: 4,291
i was a little distracted at the time by playing at the sharp end of a tournament when i played/messed up this one...but ctiticise away anyway...TINTIN. lol
| n | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| bignoise10 | Small blind | £0.02 | £0.02 | £3.30 | |
| TINTIN | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.06 | £8.93 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| florance | Raise | £0.08 | £0.14 | £2.84 | |
| toffeecat | Raise | £0.12 | £0.26 | £2.86 | |
| devonfish5 | Raise | £0.24 | £0.50 | £3.65 | |
| bignoise10 | Fold | ||||
| TINTIN | Fold | ||||
| florance | Call | £0.16 | £0.66 | £2.68 | |
| toffeecat | Raise | £0.24 | £0.90 | £2.62 | |
| devonfish5 | Raise | £0.48 | £1.38 | £3.17 | |
| florance | Call | £0.48 | £1.86 | £2.20 | |
| toffeecat | Call | £0.36 | £2.22 | £2.26 | |
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| florance | Check | ||||
| toffeecat | Bet | £1.11 | £3.33 | £1.15 | |
| devonfish5 | Fold | ||||
| florance | Fold | ||||
| toffeecat | Muck | ||||
| toffeecat | Win | £2.05 | £3.20 | ||
| toffeecat | Return | £1.11 | £0.17 | £4.31 | |
Comments
As played you probably have no choice but to fold.
yeah i'm guessing he had AK at worse,so not the end of the world folding i think.
yeah,prob should have just got in all-in pre.
but i think he would have prob still called so i'd of lost the lot...maybe.
dev
Don't be worrying about that dev if he has AK and calls and wins we are still loving it as its profitable long term, obviously we curse and get annoyed as the hand plays out but not being results orientated its good for us. FWIW i reckon most players just jam AK pre but he prob had a raggy ace or something.
I raise much bigger pre as Lambert said and then probably donk off my stack anyway convicing myself i will get there with the runner runner lol
i'll post up more in the morning but its about your bet sizing pre, lambert has covered my quick answer. i just think this is a hand you could learn from about sizing pre.
as i said i wasn't really givin it my full attention so i know i messed up.
i'll try harder nxt time. lol
ty for all the comments though.
night
dev
Hey Dev,
Nice fold!
Preflop at 2p 4p with a monster we want to bolster the aggression right up.
To the original 3 bet, i would 4 bet to about 50-55p (if not a bit more), i would say atleast one of these players is calling.
By min raising (twice) we are encouraging the other 2 to come along for the ride. I find when there is raises-rearises at this level players will like to run with their cards and are very reluctant to fold pre.
On the flop excluding an ace dropping, i would bet out big to try and get the stacks in. If the flop comes J/ Q high and they are sitting with top pair/ reasonable kicker they are calling all day long.
we're not going there again. lol
yeah,same old same old,i guess.
i'm not throwing in £3.50 or whatever i've got,just to see an ace...again. lols
dev
yeah,i would have bet flop for sure if ace hadn't come,but as played i'm long gone as they say in the 'real husstle' lol
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^
dev
at the time i was a little shocked to see you 6 bet pre flop and for the total bet to be only 18 big blinds or 72p. i was screaming to myself for you to shove the opponents 5 bet because i had a fair idea what you were holding and i didnt think the opponent had you beat pre (think that judgement was justified when he flatted the 6 bet).
i really thought you could get all your stack in pre, and be a big favourite in the hand. wether you planned on that or not i dont know but it would have been the route i would have took. i think your 4 bet after 2 min raises should have been bigger. going to 40p+ would have been ideal just so you werent giving good odds to junky type hands that do this min raising stuff to call and see the flop. it would have also ment any other bets in the hand pre would have been bigger as a result making it easier to get your stack in.
dont be putting yourself down with the thread title, its just a couple of minor things i think you could have done differently. ive seen them played a lot worse by many.
i think you made a good fold on the flop fwiw, with 2 opponents still in the hand the ace has a very good chance that it paired one of them.
just remember when playing that your trying to get as much value as you can from these types of hands and sometimes you got to take the bull by the horns and lead the opponents into making costly mistakes, make them pay. playing the way you did probably saved you money this time but could cost you moeny in the long term.
you are getting there with the transition to cash, this wasnt ment to mock you or anything like that, just noting some observations from sitting at the table with you. hope all is well and good luck
yeah as i think i said att,i was playing final stages of tournie,and my concentration wasn't as it could be.
thats how i'd of played a dym hand i guess and as i was on auto pilot my old habits if u like kicked in lol
i have been playing alot more aggro in general though.
thanks for the advice m8
dev
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