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Kicking myself

10NGY10NGY Member Posts: 108
edited March 2013 in The Poker Clinic
Just went out of the £500 BH with the following hand. How many of you would get away from this and am I as stupid as I currently think.

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancerubbertoesSmall blind 765.00765.000.0010NGYBig blind 1600.002365.0041810.00 Your hole cardsKQ   eitherwayRaise 3200.005565.0040706.25cajonesCall 3200.008765.0045665.00sloppy45Fold    10NGYCall 1600.0010365.0040210.00Flop  K34   10NGYBet 8000.0018365.0032210.00eitherwayAll-in 40706.2559071.250.00cajonesFold    10NGYAll-in 32210.0091281.250.00eitherwayUnmatched bet 496.2590785.00496.25rubbertoesShow88   10NGYShowKQ   eitherwayShowKA   Turn  2   River  9   eitherwayWinPair of Kings90785.00 91281.25
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited March 2013
    Well you've played it a bit funky lol.

    Why donk bet the flop? This is a perfect board for them to c-bet which is great for us.

    I'd probably check/call and get it in on pretty much any turn. If they wanna get it in on the flop, then that's fine too.

    If you're gonna fold a flop this good for us, then you should 100% fold pre.
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  • devonfish5devonfish5 Member Posts: 4,291
    edited March 2013
    KQis what i'd call a marginal hand,so you either take down a small pot or risk losing a big one,as you have here.(abou 1/3 of your chips i think.)
    best to just fold p/f imo.
    that goes for all marginal hands, kj k 10 AQ AJ A 10 etc.
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited March 2013
    AQ, marginal!!!???

    AQ is like a dream come true at late stages of an MTT
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  • devonfish5devonfish5 Member Posts: 4,291
    edited March 2013
    In Response to Re: Kicking myself:
    AQ, marginal!!!??? AQ is like a dream come true at late stages of an MTT
    Posted by Lambert180
    maybe for you Paul...lol
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  • 10NGY10NGY Member Posts: 108
    edited March 2013
    I normally would have folded this hand, but the short stack was away and a bounty up for grabs so I weakend the opponents raising range and he only min raised. With the short stack all in as the big blind if I had AK I would play very aggressive to claim the bounty... I guess it's a good example of why you should play your normal game in BHs...

    And Lambert I donked the flop to try and get action from maybe a flush draw or middle pockets. Didn't wanna give away free cards in this situation.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited March 2013
    shove or fold - if u call - never fold top pairs
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited March 2013
    In Response to Re: Kicking myself:
    I normally would have folded this hand, but the short stack was away and a bounty up for grabs so I weakend the opponents raising range and he only min raised. With the short stack all in as the big blind if I had AK I would play very aggressive to claim the bounty... I guess it's a good example of why you should play your normal game in BHs... And Lambert I donked the flop to try and get action from maybe a flush draw or middle pockets. Didn't wanna give away free cards in this situation.
    Posted by 10NGY
    and so he should no need to go any bigger
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited March 2013
    In Response to Re: Kicking myself:
    I normally would have folded this hand, but the short stack was away and a bounty up for grabs so I weakend the opponents raising range and he only min raised. With the short stack all in as the big blind if I had AK I would play very aggressive to claim the bounty... I guess it's a good example of why you should play your normal game in BHs... And Lambert I donked the flop to try and get action from maybe a flush draw or middle pockets. Didn't wanna give away free cards in this situation.
    Posted by 10NGY
    But this is a great flop for them to c-bet (which we want them to do), so everytime you donk bet and they have AQ, AJ, AT, QJ, even 66-QQ* you take away their opportunity to c-bet and they probably just go 'ok he has a K, I'll fold'.

    By all means if they c-bet, you can jam over the top but let them stick and extra 7k (ish) in.

    *some will call with all their PPs here, some won't, some will call with the larger ones etc, but generally you make things easier for them.
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  • ZIPPY146ZIPPY146 Member Posts: 33
    edited March 2013
    10ngy,we have all done it ,got bounty fever!!!with 2min raise bets your up against ,probably an ace and a pair,or any combination of these. SO your behind with kq,i have got myself in trouble like u b4 with kq,so i have learnt my lesson,dont play this regal combination to a raise.With him going all in,it would be hard to fold,but a good fold can win u tournament,as much as the hands u win.we all make mistakes,but the better players learn from them......good luck10ngy
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