In Response to Re: A question on promotions... : No, we're not really talking about things like that, more promotions like: - Kings of cash - Sit & Go Champ - Golden Tickets - etc... Posted by Sky_Poker
Yeah then lots of little ones. I like a better chance of winning.
Fewer smaller promotions seems better unless you want to attract mainly grinders, as the bigger ones tend to require higher volume.
+1 to the need for a proper SNG promotion but not one including DYM's. DYM's don't need any increase in volume. It's been discussed before in some depth.
I voted for little ones but really depends on what they are. Reason being the bigger ones to benefit a few whereas smaller ones will benefit more I think. Even though I've never won anything from it I think the golden ticket promotion is very good.
re no promotion for dyms mentioned above. Why not reward people who play these regularly? There's cash promotions and mtt promotions continually but nothing for dyms. Dyms are one of the most popular games on here but that doesn't mean they don't deserve to be rewarded. in fact the Dyms must be a nice little earner for the site.
Give us poor dym customers something back sky we deserve it
I have nothing against DYM grinders. However promotions are there to increase traffic on the site, not really to reward players, and there's plenty of traffic in DYM's already.
The regular SNG's are the problem child of Sky and need promoting to get people playing them. If that promotion were to include DYM's, heads-up games or whatever, then it wouldn't help increase numbers in the regular SNG's.
By the way, the cash players will be on your case soon saying "You get 10 C4P's per pound raked for DYM's and only 6 per pound in cash. So you get plenty back". They like to moan about that. lol
I have nothing against DYM grinders. However promotions are there to increase traffic on the site, not really to reward players, and there's plenty of traffic in DYM's already. The regular SNG's are the problem child of Sky and need promoting to get people playing them. If that promotion were to include DYM's, heads-up games or whatever, then it wouldn't help increase numbers in the regular SNG's. By the way, the cash players will be on your case soon saying "You get 10 C4P's per pound raked for DYM's and only 6 per pound in cash. So you get plenty back". They like to moan about that. lol Posted by BorinLoner
to increase traffic and retain existing customers
at a quick glance there's a similar amount of players playing cash games as there is dym's. Give us all promotions i say lol
I have nothing against DYM grinders. However promotions are there to increase traffic on the site, not really to reward players, and there's plenty of traffic in DYM's already. The regular SNG's are the problem child of Sky and need promoting to get people playing them. If that promotion were to include DYM's, heads-up games or whatever, then it wouldn't help increase numbers in the regular SNG's. By the way, the cash players will be on your case soon saying "You get 10 C4P's per pound raked for DYM's and only 6 per pound in cash. So you get plenty back". They like to moan about that. lol Posted by BorinLoner
Just stick the TV icon on regular sit & go's and get all the TV tart's playing them simples.
DYMs are probably one of it not the biggest earner for sky at 10% rake (or more for 2 quid or less buy in) for games that last 45 mins at most and are easy to multitable and without decent cash for points would not attract the traffic they get, unfortunately standard sit n gos will never be as popular as only 2 places paid so you need to win a high proportion outright to make decent profit and its harder to play say 6 or 9 at a time when you have to go for outright wins. Personally I would love to see a return of the league format as I dont play the volume I used to as I am no longer chasing a top 30 place that TSP playoff was a big incentive and a big rake generator for Sky
If I was running sky I'd run a kings of cash, sit and go promo and a mtt leaderboard monthly. I'm sure the extra traffic and increase in rake taken would far and away exceed the prizepools!
What about a promotion where you can change poker points into tournament tokens e.g. 1000 poker points for a 1.10 entry or 5000 poker points for a 5.50 token.
I think this would definitly get people to play more.
Or perhaps instead of just being given x amount for z number of points. Have the option to convert them and enter a tourneys.
Like say £10 can be swapped for a ticket, ten people per tourney and prizes of £50,£30 and £20. and no entry fee. Then players have the option of gambling for a bigger prize or just keep the £10 originally awarded. Doesnt cost Sky anything extra as the total awarded will be the same.
Could go as far as 50 players and a £500 pool, the permutations are endless.
Simialr to the above suggested, but all the entrants have to come from converted poker points - no cash buy in alternative. Like an exclusivity tourney.
Generally would be only regs playing them, so would be light hearted bragging rights for the message board.
I voted for little ones as gets more people involved.
Glad u ask this as dont want to seem like Im criticising or having a rant.
I personally feel the following things need changed/looked at.
C4Points - Shouldnt be done on a month basis, it should be done when you reach points thresholds. It dosent make you any less loyal the time it takes to reach points targets. The low stakes players still pay rake and to give them a 'reward' every so often surely pays for itself and retains them. Even if they stop playing for a cpl of months, they are more likely to come back here?
Freerolls - I think the new changes are good and the £1k ones that Joe/Adam or whoever put them on were great, but think there should be a cpl of these 'Big' freerolls, permament a month, with no rebuys. U could buyin with a certain number of points eg 150? Like I said I dont want to critcise but there is a £10k freeroll each month for new players whilst loyal players play here each. What % of these players are regularly playing on the site 3 months later?
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- Kings of cash
- Sit & Go Champ
- Golden Tickets
- etc...
Fewer smaller promotions seems better unless you want to attract mainly grinders, as the bigger ones tend to require higher volume.
+1 to the need for a proper SNG promotion but not one including DYM's. DYM's don't need any increase in volume. It's been discussed before in some depth.
The regular SNG's are the problem child of Sky and need promoting to get people playing them. If that promotion were to include DYM's, heads-up games or whatever, then it wouldn't help increase numbers in the regular SNG's.
By the way, the cash players will be on your case soon saying "You get 10 C4P's per pound raked for DYM's and only 6 per pound in cash. So you get plenty back". They like to moan about that. lol
at a quick glance there's a similar amount of players playing cash games as there is dym's. Give us all promotions i say lol
DYMs are probably one of it not the biggest earner for sky at 10% rake (or more for 2 quid or less buy in) for games that last 45 mins at most and are easy to multitable and without decent cash for points would not attract the traffic they get, unfortunately standard sit n gos will never be as popular as only 2 places paid so you need to win a high proportion outright to make decent profit and its harder to play say 6 or 9 at a time when you have to go for outright wins.
Personally I would love to see a return of the league format as I dont play the volume I used to as I am no longer chasing a top 30 place that TSP playoff was a big incentive and a big rake generator for Sky
Promo paying the most profit on em in a month, over xx,xxx hands as a minimium sample.
Nothing for SNGs as i dont play them.
I think this would definitly get people to play more.
Like say £10 can be swapped for a ticket, ten people per tourney and prizes of £50,£30 and £20. and no entry fee. Then players have the option of gambling for a bigger prize or just keep the £10 originally awarded. Doesnt cost Sky anything extra as the total awarded will be the same.
Could go as far as 50 players and a £500 pool, the permutations are endless.
Simialr to the above suggested, but all the entrants have to come from converted poker points - no cash buy in alternative. Like an exclusivity tourney.
Generally would be only regs playing them, so would be light hearted bragging rights for the message board.
Any takers for that?
I voted for little ones as gets more people involved.
Glad u ask this as dont want to seem like Im criticising or having a rant.
I personally feel the following things need changed/looked at.
C4Points - Shouldnt be done on a month basis, it should be done when you reach points thresholds. It dosent make you any less loyal the time it takes to reach points targets. The low stakes players still pay rake and to give them a 'reward' every so often surely pays for itself and retains them. Even if they stop playing for a cpl of months, they are more likely to come back here?
Freerolls - I think the new changes are good and the £1k ones that Joe/Adam or whoever put them on were great, but think there should be a cpl of these 'Big' freerolls, permament a month, with no rebuys. U could buyin with a certain number of points eg 150? Like I said I dont want to critcise but there is a £10k freeroll each month for new players whilst loyal players play here each. What % of these players are regularly playing on the site 3 months later?
Anyway thanks for asking/listening!