on the info provided who can tell why the guy with 7 10 played
What were the blinds what were the stack sizes
Wih that information, I bet someone on here could give a valid reason for the guy with 7 10 playing.
I've left the above in , even though Ive reread the original post and relaise we are at second hand, thus im guessing all players are evenly stacked, and blinds obviously low. In which case its hard to make a case for the guy who played 7 10, unless he had lost a good proportion of his stack in the first hand, seeing 3 all ins, he feels he has live cards and if he comes thru it puts him back into the pack, would be my only guess other than he's a total muppet of course
As for folding Aces pre flop again this depends on the tourney. Against 4 random hands I could be as lower as 42% favourite to win. If its the early stages of a tourny do I take the chance that I may quadruple my chip stack 4 times in 10, the other 6 times I get knocked out, Is calling or folding the most profitable move in this scenario. If you quadruple up at the early stage, how many times will you go on to make the money, and make sufficeint money to make up for the times you get knocked out or dont make the money. If you play 10 £1 MTT, does calling in this situation, give you a good chance of winning £10 minimum in one of the tournies when your aces hold up.
In a 6 seat Single Table Tourny then calling would be a profitable move I would guess, as 4 times in 10 you get such a chip stack to guarantee you 2nd place, and most likely 1st 50% of the time, that you can afford to lose your stake those 6 other times.
With you saying small tourny table, im guessing you are saying there was only 6 of you in the whole tourny in which case the call was the correct play in my opinion
But I think there are lots of cases where in larger tournies folding aces in the situation you describe would be a beneficial move.
Marg - I see you say you wouldnt fold aces pre flop, you would wait till teh flop and make your decision there. However I'm guessing from the way the OP has worded his post, that the other 4 players went all in pre flop, and the OP was put to the decision to call for all his chips, so you wouldnt get teh chance to make your decision on the flop. So I guess what I'm asking is in general would you have called 4 all ins for your tournament life with aces, presuming that we are still way off the money
If you're the comfortable chip leader in a DYM Sit-N'-Go and threee other players below you are slugging it out for the two remaining places you should fold everything pre-flop, even AA, only unless it's against a very short stack.
I would have gone all-in in the scenario outlined at the start of this thread. Yes, it's a coin flip maybe, but it's an ideal chance to start the tourney with a monster stack which would then let you switch to very tight play for ages and give you a great chance of making the bubble.
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What were the blinds what were the stack sizes
Wih that information, I bet someone on here could give a valid reason for the guy with 7 10 playing.
I've left the above in , even though Ive reread the original post and relaise we are at second hand, thus im guessing all players are evenly stacked, and blinds obviously low. In which case its hard to make a case for the guy who played 7 10, unless he had lost a good proportion of his stack in the first hand, seeing 3 all ins, he feels he has live cards and if he comes thru it puts him back into the pack, would be my only guess other than he's a total muppet of course
As for folding Aces pre flop again this depends on the tourney. Against 4 random hands I could be as lower as 42% favourite to win. If its the early stages of a tourny do I take the chance that I may quadruple my chip stack 4 times in 10, the other 6 times I get knocked out, Is calling or folding the most profitable move in this scenario. If you quadruple up at the early stage, how many times will you go on to make the money, and make sufficeint money to make up for the times you get knocked out or dont make the money. If you play 10 £1 MTT, does calling in this situation, give you a good chance of winning £10 minimum in one of the tournies when your aces hold up.
In a 6 seat Single Table Tourny then calling would be a profitable move I would guess, as 4 times in 10 you get such a chip stack to guarantee you 2nd place, and most likely 1st 50% of the time, that you can afford to lose your stake those 6 other times.
With you saying small tourny table, im guessing you are saying there was only 6 of you in the whole tourny in which case the call was the correct play in my opinion
But I think there are lots of cases where in larger tournies folding aces in the situation you describe would be a beneficial move.
Marg - I see you say you wouldnt fold aces pre flop, you would wait till teh flop and make your decision there. However I'm guessing from the way the OP has worded his post, that the other 4 players went all in pre flop, and the OP was put to the decision to call for all his chips, so you wouldnt get teh chance to make your decision on the flop. So I guess what I'm asking is in general would you have called 4 all ins for your tournament life with aces, presuming that we are still way off the money
Aski
If you're the comfortable chip leader in a DYM Sit-N'-Go and threee other players below you are slugging it out for the two remaining places you should fold everything pre-flop, even AA, only unless it's against a very short stack.
I would have gone all-in in the scenario outlined at the start of this thread. Yes, it's a coin flip maybe, but it's an ideal chance to start the tourney with a monster stack which would then let you switch to very tight play for ages and give you a great chance of making the bubble.