4-bet bet sizing?

DrSharp

Firstly, hand is irrelevant. I have AK he has KK. Meh, c'est la vie!

Can we please discuss the general consensus on mainly 4 bet betsizing but may as well throw 3 bet betsizing in too just for clarification.

The only other thing i could add is that i do occassionally 4 bet bluff with complete air against the right players so i am not just 4 betting for value all of the time.

As a general rule i usually make the 4 bet around 2.x- />3.0 times the 3 bet. I lean more to the 2.x due to me bluffing sometimes so it keeps it consistant and allowing me to bluff ever so slightly cheaper.

Discuss please, and please dont necessarilly just discuss this particular hand but also the concept of 4 betting and its sizing and also 4 bet bluffing.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DrSharp	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£8.65
CuIt	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£7.10
	Your hole cards	A K
lordgee12	Raise		£0.16	£0.28	£10.29
MrCoxy	Call		£0.16	£0.44	£7.32
DrSharp	Raise		£0.56	£1.00	£8.09
CuIt	Fold
lordgee12	Raise		£0.88	£1.88	£9.41
MrCoxy	Fold
DrSharp	Raise		£2.20	£4.08	£5.89
lordgee12	All-in		£9.41	£13.49	£0.00
DrSharp	All-in		£5.89	£19.38	£0.00
lordgee12	Unmatched bet		£1.76	£17.62	£1.76
DrSharp	Show	A K
lordgee12	Show	K K
Flop
		Q K J
Turn
		3
River
		8
lordgee12	Win	Three Kings	£16.29		£18.05

YOUNG_GUN

Wouldnt 4 bet bluff this level no point, ppl dont really consider anything other then their hand most the time

In general i dont think there is a specific amount you should be 3-4 betting as it should be player dependent, but as consistent as possible

rancid

4 bet to around 25bb

sighcall

Is this not a 5-bet or am i missing something?

Lambert180

This is a 5bet.

I'd normally go something like 3/9/24 big blinds for open, 3bet, 4bet but obviously using that 4bet sizing relies on the villian not doing wierd 3bet sizing and also increase if others have flatted the 3bet before you've got round to 4betting.

I might go a bigger bigger with your 3bet