This hand was reviewed on 861 last night, the analysts said I should have gone broke here

ACEGOONER

Hand History #643762820 (19:08 14/04/2013)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceRemyMartinSmall blind £0.10£0.10£19.90slickkrickBig blind £0.20£0.30£9.79UPSit out     Your hole cardsQ8   onthemoonCall £0.20£0.50£42.55ACEGOONERRaise £0.60£1.10£41.76_ARAZI_Fold    RemyMartinFold    slickkrickCall £0.40£1.50£9.39onthemoonCall £0.40£1.90£42.15Flop  76K   slickkrickCheck    onthemoonCheck    ACEGOONERBet £1.43£3.33£40.33slickkrickFold    onthemoonCall £1.43£4.76£40.72Turn  6   onthemoonCheck    ACEGOONERBet £3.57£8.33£36.76onthemoonCall £3.57£11.90£37.15River  8   onthemoonBet £8.93£20.83£28.22ACEGOONERCall £8.93£29.76£27.83onthemoonShow2A   ACEGOONERMuckQ8   onthemoonWinFlush to the Ace£28.27 £56.49

ACEGOONER

In Response to This hand was reviewed on 861 last night, the analysts said I should have gone broke here:

Hand History #643762820 (19:08 14/04/2013) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance RemyMartin Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £19.90 slickkrick Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £9.79 UP Sit out           Your hole cards Q 8       onthemoon Call   £0.20 £0.50 £42.55 ACEGOONER Raise   £0.60 £1.10 £41.76 _ARAZI_ Fold         RemyMartin Fold         slickkrick Call   £0.40 £1.50 £9.39 onthemoon Call   £0.40 £1.90 £42.15 Flop     7 6 K       slickkrick Check         onthemoon Check         ACEGOONER Bet   £1.43 £3.33 £40.33 slickkrick Fold         onthemoon Call   £1.43 £4.76 £40.72 Turn     6       onthemoon Check         ACEGOONER Bet   £3.57 £8.33 £36.76 onthemoon Call   £3.57 £11.90 £37.15 River     8       onthemoon Bet   £8.93 £20.83 £28.22 ACEGOONER Call   £8.93 £29.76 £27.83 onthemoon Show 2 A       ACEGOONER Muck Q 8       onthemoon Win Flush to the Ace £28.27   £56.49
Posted by ACEGOONER

What does the community think. Two others on my table said I played it ok. 

Lambert180

Yeah I remember this hand.

I iso bigger to 80p but not the end of the world.

Flop fine, turn fine, but I do think it's tight to just flat the river. I'm definitely raising the river.

ACEGOONER

In Response to Re: This hand was reviewed on 861 last night, the analysts said I should have gone broke here:

Yeah I remember this hand. I iso bigger to 80p but not the end of the world. Flop fine, turn fine, but I do think it's tight to just flat the river. I'm definitely raising the river.
Posted by Lambert180

I found him getting active on the river totally strange, so readless I decided to flat, perhaps a bit nitty but as I said the others on the table agreed with my flat. If he let me barrell the river, he probably would have got me then. 

I think hartigan was trying to play devils advocate and agree with what I did, but as the others where soo forceful about it being a bad play he didnt follow it through. 

Lambert180

Yeah definitely know what you mean, and I think Hartigan was making a valid point. I'd be pretty certain I'm ahead but there aren't a huge amount of hands that will call a raise with worse (assuming they aint crazy).

I would be raising the river but that doesn't necessarily mean it's right

sighcall

id just call.

Who the analysists BTW?

Lambert180

Ryan and Barry Carter

ACEGOONER

In Response to Re: This hand was reviewed on 861 last night, the analysts said I should have gone broke here:

id just call. Who the analysists BTW?
Posted by sighcall

Ryan Spittles and Barry Carter.

BigHawk89

if youve played this guy before it could even be a fold......

_ARAZI_

In Response to Re: This hand was reviewed on 861 last night, the analysts said I should have gone broke here:

if youve played this guy before it could even be a fold......
Posted by BigHawk89

+1 to this but as played you can NEVER raise this oppo on river

est1967

Why is it bad to flat..I saw this and disagree with these analysts.

Lambert180

To be fair, on the show the analysts have to review it in a vacuum so without the reads mentioned above cos they just dont' have them, so in a vacuum, i think we should raise.

liamboi11

I think you have played the hand fine.

maybe the analysts mean you should have gone broke if the opponent played the hand more aggressive by raising flop or turn by him/her playing it passive till river you saved money and they let you off the hook imo.

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: This hand was reviewed on 861 last night, the analysts said I should have gone broke here:

if youve played this guy before it could even be a fold......
Posted by BigHawk89

v much this. 

fold is a million times better than a shove. 

craigcu12

In Response to Re: This hand was reviewed on 861 last night, the analysts said I should have gone broke here:

I think you have played the hand fine. maybe the analysts mean you should have gone broke if the opponent played the hand more aggressive by raising flop or turn by him/her playing it passive till river you saved money and they let you off the hook imo.
Posted by liamboi11

spot on.
that villian with the nut flush should have caused you to go bust he was just too passive.

scotty77

Raise against a random.

Flat is fine if you have notes on the guy.

The more I thought about the hand on the night the more I came over towards the line you took, btw.

Out of interest...what do you do if he takes the same line but its not a paired board?

jugglegeek

At the microstakes, especially on Sky, when you are up against random fishy players*, this line is almost always the nuts. When you iso-raise a player pre-flop they will fold to c-bet very often. When they take the line of limp-call-check-call-check-call-hugedonkriver it's almost always "I flopped the nuts".

You still did the right thing to call and (presumably) make notes. But raising on the end is unecessary.