Good spot for treble up in Mini BH or just give it a miss??

D96RNWE

Hi all, I was just wondering if you though i played this OK as i thought it was a good spot to try and treble up early and build a stack or should i have just avoided it??

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancerubberdukSmall blind 15.0015.002165.00D96RNWEBig blind 30.0045.002080.00 Your hole cardsJA   jimmy12534Fold    TheAllyRaise 90.00135.001940.00adzeyCall 90.00225.001485.00mjp123Fold    rubberdukCall 75.00300.002090.00D96RNWECall 60.00360.002020.00Flop  697   rubberdukBet 180.00540.001910.00D96RNWECall 180.00720.001840.00TheAllyCall 180.00900.001760.00adzeyAll-in 1485.002385.000.00rubberdukCall 1305.003690.00605.00D96RNWEAll-in 1840.005530.000.00TheAllyFold    rubberdukCall 535.006065.0070.00rubberdukShow8A   D96RNWEShowJA   adzeyShow99   Turn  4   River  7   adzeyWinFull House, 9s and 7s4995.00 4995.00D96RNWEWinPair of 7s1070.00 1070.00

SJspanky1

In Response to Good spot for treble up in Mini BH or just give it a miss??:

Hi all, I was just wondering if you though i played this OK as i thought it was a good spot to try and treble up early and build a stack or should i have just avoided it?? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance rubberduk Small blind   15.00 15.00 2165.00 D96RNWE Big blind   30.00 45.00 2080.00   Your hole cards J A       jimmy12534 Fold         TheAlly Raise   90.00 135.00 1940.00 adzey Call   90.00 225.00 1485.00 mjp123 Fold         rubberduk Call   75.00 300.00 2090.00 D96RNWE Call   60.00 360.00 2020.00 Flop     6 9 7       rubberduk Bet   180.00 540.00 1910.00 D96RNWE Call   180.00 720.00 1840.00 TheAlly Call   180.00 900.00 1760.00 adzey All-in   1485.00 2385.00 0.00 rubberduk Call   1305.00 3690.00 605.00 D96RNWE All-in   1840.00 5530.00 0.00 TheAlly Fold         rubberduk Call   535.00 6065.00 70.00 rubberduk Show 8 A       D96RNWE Show J A       adzey Show 9 9       Turn     4       River     7       adzey Win Full House, 9s and 7s 4995.00   4995.00 D96RNWE Win Pair of 7s 1070.00   1070.00
Posted by D96RNWE

2 overs and the nut flush draw.....I do exactly the same.

Nowt wrong with trying to spin it up early in these tourneys, unlucky.

BorinLoner

We can consider 3-betting pre-flop but it's tough to know if we're raising for value, thinking we can be called by worse, or if we're just squeezing, hoping to take it down pre-flop or on the flop with a c-bet. It's not ideal to be bluffing with hands like AJs and playing a big pot out of position with it is potentially going to be tricky, especially if we get multiple callers. I'm happy with just calling and taking the flop.

Facing the donk-bet, we need to think about our opponent's range. You haven't provided any information on that but unless we think that this player only donk-leads here with a really nutted range like sets or two-pair, which he never folds to a raise, then I think we should be raising.

Our hand has good equity against any hand but it's unlikely to be the best of four hands right now. By raising as a semi-bluff we can get better hands to fold alot of the time and when they don't, we'll be getting it in with alot of outs anyway.

As played, when the action comes back to us we should believe that we have probably eight live outs. I don't think we should be considering the 7d, the Aces or Jacks as live outs. In that case, we're probably around 30% or perhaps a little less to win the hand against the two ranges. Our pot odds are around 30% if we assume rubberduk is calling the rest off. That makes it really tight but if we want to be winning MTT's we need to be spinning up our stack.

If there's ever a chance that our Ace or Jack are live outs, then this is an easy call. I don't use pokerstove either, so the 30% equity against their ranges is just my best guess. You might want to put their ranges into stove. That will give you a clear answer about whether it's a call or not.

Generally speaking, folding this nut draw with these pot odds seems bad, so I'm happy with the call. However, I think it's definitely better to be raising the donk-bet ourselves.

BorinLoner

Thinking about it, it probably is a call because some of the time they can both have weaker draws than us or one will be playing a draw and the other just a pair. Either scenario would dramatically increase our equity.

As I say, PokerStove will give you a clear answer.

grantorino

Raise flip, getting it in is fine