the MEADOWS KILLAS only 2 months experince of cash games diary

meadowskil

Im kinda of new. But not. I started 2 years ago playing ten quid  buys in casual 8 handed games with my mates. Started beating them. So I dabbled with 5 p ten p and considered myself a decent recreational player that broke even at best.

Anyway had 2 weeks off work on march the 6th and decided to get good(not try and make it) snd see if I could earn steady cash. if I could it would mean instead of going to the pub or something daft I could stay in and not only save my money but actually earn. So I built myself a criteria.

I put in 30 quid, and multi tabled 2 p 4 p. I started off with 1 table but I do 3 now. Ive with drawn 117 quid thus far, with still 30 quid in. Ive earnt over 1300 points in under 2 months. Bare in mind ive lost money on poor play, tilt, mis calling, boredom and 2 bounty hunters I ddint care for.

So I think that's a good start, I feel lots of work is to be done.

But as of may the 1st I will kee a diary for you guys.

tomo_efc

Look forward to reading.

LARSON7

Cracking stuff meadow, welcome to the forum and look forward to reading your diary!

You are a good player, for sure, so will have no problems making profit from 2p 4p.

Though, if you were going to the pub to play a game, it's a cheap night out. Can't beat a bit of live poker and the banter that goes with it.

Look forward to hearing about your continued success. I'm gonna do the same thing goin forward, i've lifted most cash outa my account and am now just playing with £50 quid, and will continue to keep it at £50 quid withdrawing any profits.

Good luck!

bbMike

Hey, welcome to the forum good to chat to you on the table tonight. Best of luck.

meadowskil

cheers guys.

Well I have 24 quid account before I started this journal. I did a cheeky bounty hunter game which nicked 5.75 off my bankroll, which I played ok in, got it in with ace queen all in and lost to king jack. Oh well, this is bout cash games. did you win bbmike btw?

3 tabled tonight, played ok and ended up down just over 3 quid.  In my 2 month criteria a fairly new development is my 3 strikes and out rule. Basically its a top up criteria to reduce bad play/tilt and also limit how much I can lose in a poor session. The general gist of it is that I have only 3 top ups allowed so In theory I can only lose a max of 12 quid in one sesson.

mentally  I was going in thinking I wasn't going to do to well as yesterday I had a my aces smashed in a 3 way all in preflop war with kings and jacks, and the jacks won with a back door flush.
I logged on a 1030 and said to myself ill play all the way through to happy hour ends if I don't lose all my 3 lives. It was just one of those night where although I lost I kinda felt I was up. I was just continually having to make tough decisions in tough spots, here are some examples.

This guy(who I couldn't win a pot off all night lol) raised 12 p, I re reraised with pocket jacks to about 28p he calls. Queen of hearts, 5 of clubs and 3 of clubs hit. He showed all in. he was small stack(about 1.70-2.00 odd), and I felt I just had to fold. H did the innial raise of 12 p with could be king queen, ace queen, etc. I folded. I asked him what he had and he had king 8 suited of clubs. So I would have been slightly better than a coin toss, but im still pleased I folded. But it kinda set the tone for the rest of the night that nothing would go my way.

Anyway, I got up to 6.50 on that table, and raised heavily with ace queen suited(spades) on dealer chip.he called (yes same guy) with his orginal 8 p min raise. Flop came jack of hearts, 7 of spades 2 of spades. he either checked or betted, I decided to shove. I had so many outs the fold equity. But he called with poket 8's(very brave call considering the jack and the fact I raised heavily) and I didn't hit the ace, queen or spades lol. But I reviewed the hand on the poker hand ods site and I was slightly better than a coin flip at over 55 percent.

did I do the right play folks??perhaps I need to be more selective with that play on the 2 p 4p level lol.

WITH THE SAME GUY AGAIN!(notice pattern here folks) I called in small blind with jack 9 suited of clubS in a 6 way family pot.Flop came 2 2 4, two of which were clubs. I was calling with pot odds and hit flush on last card, but fully aware of full house. Called the river 80 p raise and low and behold he had pocket fours to complete full house. Old me would have shoved all in there(3 weeks ago to be precise) so I can take some postives from that I guess.

Other tough spot was a rasied 28 p with my pocket tens on button. All mins raises of 8 p folded apart from the dude to the right of me. Flop came 9,8 2 rainbow. I bet half pOt after his check and he called. A king came, I cant remember if I cheked or had one more stab at it, but we checked the river and he had pocket queens. He divulged to me that he was about to fold preflop. So perhaps I should be even more aggressive with tens on dealer chip. Oh well you live and learn.

All in a bad time of it, but I gave myself a B as I was never angry or tilted, and I didn't some nice bluff catching. Being 3 quid down aint to bad n 3 tables.

bbMike

No, came 8th in that one I think was 3rd (joint 2nd) in chips with 8 left and tangled with the guy with a similar chip count. All chips went in on the turn and he hit one of two cards on the river. Felt pretty sick, thought I had the whole thing locked up! Sent you the hand by pm if you're interested.

If you want feedback on hands, copy them in from the hand history as it just makes it easier to follow the action. I wouldn't pay too much attention to what people claim they had in the chat box, I've been holding the cards people have said they had a few times!

A nitty point but if you have 3 top-ups @£4 isn't your max loss > £12....? Do you only top up when you go bust? I don't really play cash but I've heard people saying you should reload when you get below around 25% down (so £3) at a minimum. Playing short can make you make sub-optimal plays and will also mean you can't get max value from the other stacks around. Just thoughts. Run well.

MP33

"But I reviewed the hand on the poker hand ods site and I was slightly better than a coin flip at over 55 percent.

did I do the right play folks? "

Sounds like you,ve answered your own question there.

I,d certainly have made a note on the guy who said he was tempted to fold qq pre. He must think your uber tight if he,s telling the truth

GL with the diary. I started what seems like ages ago with a similar role at 2p/4p and it can get boring and a bit robotic at times but i wouldn,t start playing tourneys until you,ve built up your roll a bit. The hardest thing i found was stepping up from 2p/4p as its such a big difference imo to 5p/10p and above where bluffing comes into play. It doesn,t seem to get used at 2p/4p half as much.

Ps - hope you didn,t get any of those annoying pop ups you cant get rid off while writing your post - GL  

meadowskil

Got home from work. Played 6-7 and was down a quid, folded pocket tens to a 44p reraise by a guy that seemed pretty good, he had kings. Ended up being evens after 3 tabling.

Logged on from 930 till 11.00(little bit tipsy from glass of wine) and finished up 13 quid with 3 tabling. im now on 33 quid, up 13 quid for the day and up 7 quid on my 24/25 quid bankroll.

Im only on 29 points though and I am well short of my 500 points target. May need to happy hour some 5 p 10 bump it up at the end of the month.

devonfish5

nice going mate,keep it going.
this i'm sure will make for good reading.

good luck buddy


dev

TINTIN

why the 500 points target? are you aware the bonus payouts have changed?

any reason why you have withdrawn back down to the £30. i got the impression from chatting to you at the tables a few weeks back your were trying to build up to step up to nl10.

good luck at the tables

meadowskil

up to 34.56 and up 1.57 for the day. Boring day until the last two hands tbh. Played 6 til 7(again skilfully missing hapy hour), literally nothing happened and was down a quid or so from the blinds.

Then logged on at 10 played for about 20 minutes and was playing rubbish raising heavily on button with ace ten suited, a 12 p original raiser re raised me to 88 p I called and the flop was horrendous. then folded. Rubbish play.

Then I hit full house with pocket queens and hit quads with pocket 5's and was up 8 quid in 2 hands.

I quit because I was pretty rubbish all day and finished up so I quit before I played anymore horrendous poker, I give myself a d minus.


10 pound profit since starting diary

meadowskil

awful day, swing from 34 quid to 21 quid. Never felt tilted. Played decent hands aggressively and I think im running bad but at the same time I think I am getting in needless scraps with moderate hands that fritters away a lot of money in between my bad beats. Ill get involved with a okay hand, but the bet size doesn't match how good my hand is. Im also shoving /rerasing on draw heavy boards and losing y coin tosses, and even lost kings to 9 3 of clubs, I smooth called a 12 p raise so I deserved it, but heres soe of my key hands, I would like some of you guys to pick apart my aggressive style.

 

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
BURNShurtz	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.60
DRK1965	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.85
	Your hole cards	A Q
meadowskil	Raise		£0.12	£0.18	£3.99
DarthMega	Call		£0.12	£0.30	£2.22
SALSACITY	Call		£0.12	£0.42	£3.58
BURNShurtz	Fold
DRK1965	Fold
Flop
		J 7 7
meadowskil	Check
DarthMega	Bet		£0.04	£0.46	£2.18
SALSACITY	Call		£0.04	£0.50	£3.54
meadowskil	Raise		£0.58	£1.08	£3.41
DarthMega	All-in		£2.18	£3.26	£0.00
SALSACITY	Fold
meadowskil	Call		£1.64	£4.90	£1.77
meadowskil	Show	A Q
DarthMega	Show	J J
Turn
		A
River
		10
DarthMega	Win	Full House, Jacks and 7s	£4.53		£4.53

meadowskil

Hand History #650206275 (22:26 04/05/2013)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
meadowskil	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£6.40
GADGETBOY1	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£2.33
	Your hole cards	9 9
brass	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£1.34
me2uu2me	Call		£0.16	£0.38	£2.36
TINTIN	Fold
meadowskil	Call		£0.14	£0.52	£6.26
GADGETBOY1	Fold
Flop
		8 3 7
meadowskil	Bet		£0.39	£0.91	£5.87
brass	Call		£0.39	£1.30	£0.95
me2uu2me	Fold
Turn
		4
meadowskil	Bet		£1.30	£2.60	£4.57
brass	All-in		£0.95	£3.55	£0.00
meadowskil	Unmatched bet		£0.35	£3.20	£4.92
meadowskil	Show	9 9
brass	Show	3 3
River
		6
brass	Win	Three 3s	£2.96

meadowskil

this one here I looked up and I was 48 percent to win with 3 percent tie. But I shoved and lost I thought I shoved on the flop but I only reraised, but I reckon he would have called me any how lol

falloutboy1971	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.13
33p	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£6.06
	Your hole cards	7 6
me2uu2me	Fold
meadowskil	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.67
weeburns07	Fold
seecee	Fold
falloutboy1971	Raise		£0.12	£0.22	£2.01
33p	Call		£0.10	£0.32	£5.96
meadowskil	Call		£0.10	£0.42	£3.57
Flop
		2 7 4
falloutboy1971	Bet		£0.24	£0.66	£1.77
33p	Fold
meadowskil	Raise		£1.14	£1.80	£2.43
falloutboy1971	Call		£0.90	£2.70	£0.87
Turn
		4
falloutboy1971	All-in		£0.87	£3.57	£0.00
meadowskil	Call		£0.87	£4.44	£1.56
falloutboy1971	Show	K 7
meadowskil	Show	7 6
River
		5
falloutboy1971	Win	Two Pairs, 7s and 4s	£4.10		£4.10

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meadowskil

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
k1nnky	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£6.33
redeyerye	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£10.74
	Your hole cards	8 8
stees69	Fold
drawshot09	Call		£0.08	£0.20	£8.06
meadowskil	Raise		£0.32	£0.52	£7.48
emmaloach2	Fold
k1nnky	Fold
redeyerye	Call		£0.24	£0.76	£10.50
drawshot09	Call		£0.24	£1.00	£7.82
Flop
		2 J 8
redeyerye	Check
drawshot09	Bet		£0.32	£1.32	£7.50
meadowskil	Call		£0.32	£1.64	£7.16
redeyerye	Fold
Turn
		10
drawshot09	Check
meadowskil	Bet		£1.23	£2.87	£5.93
drawshot09	Call		£1.23	£4.10	£6.27
River
		9
drawshot09	All-in		£6.27	£10.37	£0.00
meadowskil	Fold
drawshot09	Muck
drawshot09	Win		£3.79		£3.79
drawshot09	Return		£6.27	£0.31	£10.06

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this hand I binned and the guy had king queen, good fold but still bloomin annoying.

meadowskil

this hand I tried to be clever and smooth call his 12 p raise, then it all went pete tong. Such a bad player.(me that is not him)

ZOLA816	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£6.18
meadowskil	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.87
LoveChops	Sit out
	Your hole cards	K K
alibaba27	Fold
MR-CHIPS-D	Fold
CraigSG1	Raise		£0.12	£0.18	£3.21
ZOLA816	Fold
meadowskil	Call		£0.08	£0.26	£3.79
Flop
		8 4 9
meadowskil	Bet		£0.16	£0.42	£3.63
CraigSG1	Raise		£0.45	£0.87	£2.76
meadowskil	Call		£0.29	£1.16	£3.34
Turn
		J
meadowskil	Check
CraigSG1	Bet		£0.87	£2.03	£1.89
meadowskil	Call		£0.87	£2.90	£2.47
River
		3
meadowskil	Check
CraigSG1	All-in		£1.89	£4.79	£0.00
meadowskil	Call		£1.89	£6.68	£0.58
meadowskil	Show	K K
CraigSG1	Show	3 9
CraigSG1	Win	Two Pairs, 9s and 3s	£6.17		£6.17

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meadowskil

ill leave it at that, there was some sob story hand on 5 p 10 p where I had ace 6 and hit 6 set and rivered full house which meant dude split spot with 5 6 and I went all in with ten quid so I actually lost money from rake.

meadowskil

Going boringly steady then moronically passed my dollars over, here another example of how bad I am. So much was beating me then, I think I had flush spotting dyslexia, I think it got to excited that  actually may have a winning hand

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
shorter09	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.14
meadowskil	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.92
	Your hole cards	Q 10
hahahah219	Fold
Aceman23	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.66
Hobbzee	Fold
graham1941	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£12.05
shorter09	Call		£0.02	£0.16	£3.12
meadowskil	Check
Flop
		A J K
shorter09	Check
meadowskil	Bet		£0.16	£0.32	£3.76
Aceman23	Fold
graham1941	Fold
shorter09	Call		£0.16	£0.48	£2.96
Turn
		Q
shorter09	Check
meadowskil	Bet		£0.48	£0.96	£3.28
shorter09	Call		£0.48	£1.44	£2.48
River
		J
shorter09	All-in		£2.48	£3.92	£0.00
meadowskil	Call		£2.48	£6.40	£0.80
shorter09	Show	10 6
meadowskil	Show	Q 10
shorter09	Win	Flush to the Ace	£5.92		£5.92

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bbMike

Yeah, as you say you can't really call there. Check call, check call, then lead shove looks very strong. Save yourself 60BBs and wait for the next time they want to play T6. To be honest the shove is horrible here, the flush is not at all strong on this board, maybe they're not expecting two high cards as you check out of the BB. There's not much more you could've done after the flop, he's got a gut-shot and a flush draw and isn't going away even against pot sized bets. Once the turn comes you're in trouble as he's got the nuts but can also improve. Surprised the money didn't all go in on the turn. Stay focused and don't be too stubborn in spots like this where you know you were ahead further back. GL.

meadowskil

In Response to Re: the MEADOWS KILLAS only 2 months experince of cash games diary:

Yeah, as you say you can't really call there. Check call, check call, then lead shove looks very strong. Save yourself 60BBs and wait for the next time they want to play T6. To be honest the shove is horrible here, the flush is not at all strong on this board, maybe they're not expecting two high cards as you check out of the BB. There's not much more you could've done after the flop, he's got a gut-shot and a flush draw and isn't going away even against pot sized bets. Once the turn comes you're in trouble as he's got the nuts but can also improve. Surprised the money didn't all go in on the turn. Stay focused and don't be too stubborn in spots like this where you know you were ahead further back. GL.
Posted by bbMike

cheers mate, what you think  my others hands, am I playing them right or wrong?

TBH the flopped straight hand, I should have got away with if I used my 80 iq. , queen came out which weakened my straight to any ten, then only the river there was a flush and two jacks, so full house was on, straight was a split and the flush and dare I say roya flush could all have my hand beat.

As I say im a very fast player and perhaps I need to slow down and I would have pot controlled when the queen came out. I think it was boredom as everytime I play the 5p 10 p and 4 p 8p I end up up and get my money back.

bbMike

With AQ flush draw don't fall too in love, I'm normally suspicious of a small bet on a paired board, I don't mind the check/raise but I'd make it smaller giving you a chance to pull out later. The pot was 50p I'd go 34 or something rather than 58. I think only a station or a better hand is sticking around, so I give up when you're raised. Think it was Julian who said never chase a flush on a paired board, and more likely you're beat as 2 others saw the flop.

99 you might consider a 3-bet pre OOP then it should all go in on the flop unless you know your oppo isn't sticking it in without a higher pocket pair or set. As played, flop bet is fine and turn doesn't really change anything unless you can specifically put them on the open ended straight that gets there. Either route you get stacked here I think.

7c6c fine pre, your flop raise is big though and is effectively committing you both. It looks like a draw, and the oppo is happy to play the odds. Win some lose some.

88 again fine pre. Oppo's flop bet is way to small and you should be looking to get the chips in here, raise him to like 96p. Looks like a blocker bet that you've accepted. After that the board just gets worse and worse. Turn bet is fine, flop is must fold but try to get monies in before your hand has been destroyed, you're likely way ahead on flop.

Finally, KK as you know you absolutely butchered! Raise raise and raise again. Flatting for deception pre is sometimes ok, but once you've deceived them, and they come out raising the flop let's get it all in!! They can raise here with any straight or flush draw or top pair etc etc etc. 

PS they're are a million other players infinitely better than me analysing play, and they hang out in the clinic so post some hands in there. Good luck.