So otf what are you raising? Just draws + sets/JQ? We need to increase our value range on a flop like this when we're going to be bluffing quite a bit, especially btn vs co. We're getting called by so much worse and we can just fire turn & river for value depending on what comes obv. Calling ip and not ever getting out of that easy predictable line will make you very easy to play against and also, even more reason to raise, we've under-repped our hand so much. In villains eyes, if he assumes we're 3betting AQ otb like we should be doing most times, then our value range is literally limited to JQ/66 and then a whole bunch of draws Posted by percival09
Why do we need to increas our value range on our 2nd hand v villain?
What is the huge amount of worse hands you expect to flat here oop if we 3b flop with no history?
Yeah theoretically our value range is narrow, but he still needs enough equity to call v that and our big draws
I don't hate raising flop and get it in, and we certainly should sometimes do it esp with history, but I think 2 hands in he's not stacking with KQ that often and maybe not even his weaker draws
raise and get value from draws, worse Qx and prs with draws etc.. plus gives you some balance Whos afirad of the big bad club you or you opponent ? Worse case scenrio is when oppo comes over the top of your 3 bet, so only 3 bet if your happy getting it in otherwise just call. If you do call then bet bigger on turn river - sigh - no shame in folding readless but would be tempted to call Posted by rancid
Prob not that many worse Qx calling oop. If he jams his pairs + draws we get no value from our raise
In Response to Re: 100nl Should I call here? I'm confused : Prob not that many worse Qx calling oop. If he jams his pairs + draws we get no value from our raise Posted by grantorino
probably, overall think calling is better than raising without any history/dynamic
it certainly felt like a flush draw after the river bet... hence my fold
it's interesting to see the division on the flop play - to call or to raise - there are obviously merits to both - as mentioned earlier my error was in the the turn raise - too small and i let him catch... doh!
+1 to folding river, if you have a bit of history and think he's pretty good you could get it in pre co vs. btn but there's probably only a limited number of players on sky that this would be good against
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probably, overall think calling is better than raising without any history/dynamic