I'm grinding elsewhere. Im getting 40% rb and doing well in a rake race which is at least an extra £600 a month. My roi is also very similiar. Its a shame - I really like sky and depending on how my rake race is shaping up I'll be back for the promo next bank hol. I realise the arguement for the decrease in my c4p but I feel I'm worse off than 99% of people who play on here. Costs me about 9 bi's per month. People will say rb/rewards/c4p is just a bonus and thats fine and the reason why I'm playing less tables on here when I do play and generating alot less rake. Increased roi tho ;-) Good luck to all! Posted by Donttelmum
DTM do you know what a poker prop is, if you dont, send me a PM and ill link you to a site that offers 100-120% rakeback.
In Response to Re: What's happened to daytime nl30/40 action : Not something I've ever taken any notice of. I just pay attention to the games I like to play myself and yes, there seems to me fewer games running than there used to be. Spose the official line will be 'it's summer, so less people play" or something. Not sure about that though. Don't know what the reason is tbh. Combination of things maybe? Sky could help themselves massively by getting a move on with the new software! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I'm grinding elsewhere. Im getting 40% rb and doing well in a rake race which is at least an extra £600 a month. My roi is also very similiar. Its a shame - I really like sky and depending on how my rake race is shaping up I'll be back for the promo next bank hol. I realise the arguement for the decrease in my c4p but I feel I'm worse off than 99% of people who play on here. Costs me about 9 bi's per month. People will say rb/rewards/c4p is just a bonus and thats fine and the reason why I'm playing less tables on here when I do play and generating alot less rake. Increased roi tho ;-) Good luck to all! Posted by Donttelmum
Rewards should be aimed solely at those who spend the most i.e those who deposit regularly and don't withdraw.
In Response to Re: What's happened to daytime nl30/40 action : It's not really possible to make this calculation for all, so many factors affact it to be honest. Many microstakes players also take part in freerolls, promos too - if you worked it out would be much, much higher % back. It's possible this would be />100% for some. A micro stakes player who got into priority would get the same deal. Albeit, it is harder to do at that level as you'd expect. Posted by Sky_Poker
Would Sky please like to therefore defend the desision that a player at NL10 pays a max for £1.40 per pot at 7.5% - so a £20 pot is reduced by £1.40. Now a player playing the exact same hand at NL100 plays a £200 pot is charged just £1.80 max at 5% on pot.
Surely by reducing the rake at lower levels to 5% aswell that allows rec players to win more (when they win) and therefore maybe they move to a higher level, and the regs will also win more thus again they will move up to a higher level quicker.
More players playing at a higher level is good for sky right?
In Response to Re: What's happened to daytime nl30/40 action : Rewards should be aimed solely at those who spend the most i.e those who deposit regularly and don't withdraw. Posted by BrownnDog
Surely this creates a vaccum though. I agree with rewarding the grinders, but keep the fish in please
In Response to Re: What's happened to daytime nl30/40 action : Dunno, I'd expect the numbers to increase at least temporarily though, mixture of different types of players. Bighawk itt for example. Loads of other players who have 'left' because of the poor software. Can only help. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
This is the major reason I hardly play on Sky anymore.
In Response to Re: What's happened to daytime nl30/40 action : Surely this creates a vaccum though. I agree with rewarding the grinders, but keep the fish in please Posted by The_Don90
I'm confused by this reply, it sounds like you're disagreeing with Browndog and yet you're both advocating that rewards should go to, as you put it, fish.
The bigger players will always get the biggest financial reward because they pay more rake, but it stands to reason that plenty of rewards should be given to the serial depositors.
All the regs that play for a living, or a regular income on the side of a job withdraw X amount per month. Sky need, at the absolute minimum, enough people to deposit at least this amount each month to keep on an even keel, otherwise the total amount in circulation reduces and eventually the games die.
In Response to Re: What's happened to daytime nl30/40 action : Rewards should be aimed solely at those who spend the most i.e those who deposit regularly and don't withdraw. Posted by BrownnDog
Are you joking?
Players that don't deposit often and are grinding alot generate alot more rake than the players than deposit now and then, lose, wait awhile and then deposit again.
In Response to Re: What's happened to daytime nl30/40 action : Are you joking? Players that don't deposit often and are grinding alot generate alot more rake than the players than deposit now and then, lose, wait awhile and then deposit again. Posted by Donttelmum
Yeah, except it's money being on a site that keeps it going.
How much have most winners deposited it the last however many years? I'm not even a big winner at all, and I aint contributed a penny to the site for years.
You gotta think longer term, it's as simple as this, if everyone stopped depositing then your income stops. You might keep giong for a couple of months, until worse players run out, then that'd be it.
if Sky do not encourage people to deposit and play then the cash tree stops Cash goes up the tree, so your win rate is where u should be making the money Rake should be given the most to net deposters so they keep coming back because they getting something back rarther than just being eaten Rake races are for rakeback grinders
no offence DTM but you come across like you just wanna eat the fish and get all the rakeback
seems like people are very content on milking the cash cow untill it run dry then move onto another one
In Response to Re: What's happened to daytime nl30/40 action : I'm confused by this reply, it sounds like you're disagreeing with Browndog and yet you're both advocating that rewards should go to, as you put it, fish. The bigger players will always get the biggest financial reward because they pay more rake, but it stands to reason that plenty of rewards should be given to the serial depositors. All the regs that play for a living, or a regular income on the side of a job withdraw X amount per month. Sky need, at the absolute minimum, enough people to deposit at least this amount each month to keep on an even keel, otherwise the total amount in circulation reduces and eventually the games die. Posted by Lambert180
Im confused. i re-read my post and brownndogs now i dont knw whats being discussed myself sigh
if Sky do not encourage people to deposit and play then the cash tree stops Cash goes up the tree, so your win rate is where u should be making the money Rake should be given the most to net deposters so they keep coming back because they getting something back rarther than just being eaten Rake races are for rakeback grinders no offence DTM but you come across like you just wanna eat the fish and get all the rakeback seems like people are very content on milking the cash cow untill it run dry then move onto another one Posted by rancid
Still scratching my head, searching for where I was proven wrong. Any reward sctructre should be weighted heavily towards those who create extra liquidity i.e net depositers. Posted by BrownnDog
Say you deposit £10 and lose it the first hand u play. You have paid no rake for this month. I don't deposit but use my bankroll to play and earn my usual 30k points. That means I have paid over £3,000 to sky.
You've paid Sky more money yes, but you've contributed zero to the longevity of the site. I'm not having a go at you, obviously there's nothing wrong with winning money and not needing to deposit, but the people who keep the games going are the ones that deposit.
You've paid Sky more money yes, but you've contributed zero to the longevity of the site. I'm not having a go at you, obviously there's nothing wrong with winning money and not needing to deposit, but the people who keep the games going are the ones that deposit. Posted by Lambert180[/QU
I think Ive already said its a combination of both. But why should people who deposit and lose get rewarded over people who put in 300 hours a month playing at sky?
Isn't paying £3000 in rake contributing to the longevity of the site? Thats 3k in revenue that contributes towards promotions/rewards etc that encourage new people to play and sign up? Correct me if i'm wrong i don't really know how it all works but just assume that rake obtained from tables goes towards more than just rakeback. And by paying more rake than others they are effectively contributing more?
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Bighawk itt for example. Loads of other players who have 'left' because of the poor software.
Can only help.
The bigger players will always get the biggest financial reward because they pay more rake, but it stands to reason that plenty of rewards should be given to the serial depositors.
All the regs that play for a living, or a regular income on the side of a job withdraw X amount per month. Sky need, at the absolute minimum, enough people to deposit at least this amount each month to keep on an even keel, otherwise the total amount in circulation reduces and eventually the games die.
How much have most winners deposited it the last however many years? I'm not even a big winner at all, and I aint contributed a penny to the site for years.
You gotta think longer term, it's as simple as this, if everyone stopped depositing then your income stops. You might keep giong for a couple of months, until worse players run out, then that'd be it.
Cash goes up the tree, so your win rate is where u should be making the money
Rake should be given the most to net deposters so they keep coming back because they getting something back rarther than just being eaten
Rake races are for rakeback grinders
no offence DTM but you come across like you just wanna eat the fish and get all the rakeback
seems like people are very content on milking the cash cow untill it run dry then move onto another one