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nl50 200bb deep, raise folding rivered house?

rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
edited May 2013 in The Poker Clinic
opinions please
oppo is a nl50/100 reg

felt a bit mucky after this hand


PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
7redevil7 Small blind   £0.25 £0.25 £32.47
PokerKinga Big blind   £0.50 £0.75 £132.15
  Your hole cards
  • 2
  • 2
     
x Raise   £1.50 £2.25 £97.75
rancid Call   £1.50 £3.75 £143.53
wudibluff Fold        
7redevil7 Call   £1.25 £5.00 £31.22
PokerKinga Fold        
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 9
  • 6
     
7redevil7 Check        
x Bet   £2.50 £7.50 £95.25
rancid Raise   £5.50 £13.00 £138.03
7redevil7 Fold        
x Call   £3.00 £16.00 £92.25
Turn
   
  • A
     
x Check        
rancid Check        
River
   
  • 2
     
x Bet   £12.00 £28.00 £80.25
rancid Raise   £28.00 £56.00 £110.03
x Raise   £52.00 £108.00 £28.25
rancid

Comments

  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2013
    What are you doing on flop and turn?

    River, wow, idk that's a chunky 3b but you look so fos , leaning towards fold
  • LnarinOOLnarinOO Member Posts: 545
    edited May 2013
    your line here makes no sense regardless.. u call deuces i presume to set mine ? then rep a thin range by rasin small..then give up turn..? are these the only reads u ghave on villan? anyway villan never bluff raisin or has worse so be confident u made a good fold 
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited May 2013
    hi both, because my line is so stoopid I felt I should call river
    bit of a strange flop n turn because oppo calls me easy with ace high on flop ofc
    probs should continnue on turn but just rubbed my eyes and went to stand when i hit river lolz
    obviously i just wanna take pot on paired flop, hands going to be good + don't wanna see any more cards

    h8 my raise size on flop but meh
  • LnarinOOLnarinOO Member Posts: 545
    edited May 2013
    A high wont bet/3bet rvr- villan is polarised so ur hand is effectivly a bluff catcher and playin flops like this is too exploitable esp playin deep.. agree with hatin ur flop sizin lol 


  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited May 2013
    In Response to Re: nl50 200bb deep, raise folding rivered house?:
    A high wont bet/3bet rvr- villan is polarised so ur hand is effectivly a bluff catcher and playin flops like this is too exploitable esp playin deep.. agree with hatin ur flop sizin lol 
    Posted by LnarinOO
    well yeah if oppo is exploiting my flop raise, then it's possible this carries through when oppo checks turn
    Still AA flashes in my mind @ turn rarther than a float/exploit or is oppo always looking to take it away on river
    bearing in mind oppo is oop and gotta lead at it or c/r a street


    really bugging me but why doesn't oppo bet the value hand they have on turn - would imply it's a lead to take it away but it's so weak



  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2013
    We look bluffy here too.

    What level is the vil on?

    Obv I want to level myself into a call here, or maybe even a value shove. Depends if he's as good/terrible as me though. ;)
  • LnarinOOLnarinOO Member Posts: 545
    edited May 2013
    In Response to Re: nl50 200bb deep, raise folding rivered house?:
    In Response to Re: nl50 200bb deep, raise folding rivered house? : well yeah if oppo is exploiting my flop raise, then it's possible this carries through when oppo checks turn Still AA flashes in my mind @ turn rarther than a float/exploit or is oppo always looking to take it away on river bearing in mind oppo is oop and gotta lead at it or c/r a street really bugging me but why doesn't oppo bet the value hand they have on turn - would imply it's a lead to take it away but it's so weak
    Posted by rancid

    yea sorry didnt mean that was actually happenin in this hand my bad..:) was jus sayin in general vs think players

    and would be weird to not 3bet flop then donk turn




  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited May 2013
    In Response to Re: nl50 200bb deep, raise folding rivered house?:
    In Response to Re: nl50 200bb deep, raise folding rivered house? : yea sorry didnt mean that was actually happenin in this hand my bad..:) was jus sayin in general vs think players and would be weird to not 3bet flop then donk turn
    Posted by LnarinOO
    np

    still felt like oppo wanted me to bet turn

    IDK
  • LnarinOOLnarinOO Member Posts: 545
    edited May 2013
    In Response to Re: nl50 200bb deep, raise folding rivered house?:
    In Response to Re: nl50 200bb deep, raise folding rivered house? : np still felt like oppo wanted me to bet turn IDK
    Posted by rancid

    agree given flop action - maybe goin for a big c/r for stacks by rvr?
  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited May 2013
    try and pick spots to bluff when you have more than 2 outs!

    as played on the river i'd call readless, although you say in the op that villain is a reg so i'm guessing you weren't!
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2013
    In Response to Re: nl50 200bb deep, raise folding rivered house?:
    We look bluffy here too. What level is the vil on? Obv I want to level myself into a call here, or maybe even a value shove. Depends if he's as good/terrible as me though. ;)
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    I agree rancid looks fos, but he flats flop raise oop, then leads river, I'm not sure he's doing this with air too often. Then he puts in a chunky 3b on river when our range looks like nuts or air, with no history I wouldn't be sure we are good too often
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