i think 98% is a little high myself but it will be somewhere in the />90. as for penny tournies unless they r super hyper turbos they just really aint worth the rake to sky... pennies maybe for over an hours server time, bandwidth + possible tech support issues etc etc.... its a business at the end of the day designed to collect rake and tourney fees. Posted by TonyMT
I understand Pennys tournaments might not make big money for Sky but it gets players on the site. Also, this place can be quite harsh to new/not so good players. Trying to play for fun and getting called DONK/FISH everytime you win is a pain. Especially when the guy calling it ya is on a 2 year long losing streak.
So in a lower priced tournaments me and my fellow donk's can play happliy without the good players skinning us and without the wanna be players constantly whinging at us lol. Its not easy entering a £5 tourney knowing you have no chance. An I don't want to learn variance, set mining, 3 bets,C-Bets,etc, I want to play for 20p.
But from comments made so far Skypoker not a approprate place for penny tourneys and the "comunty" don't want them, plus they can be played else where.
In Response to Re: Cheap Buyin tournaments. : I understand Pennys tournaments might not make big money for Sky but it gets players on the site. Also, this place can be quite harsh to new/not so good players. Trying to play for fun and getting called DONK/FISH everytime you win is a pain. Especially when the guy calling it ya is on a 2 year long losing streak. So in a lower priced tournaments me and my fellow donk's can play happliy without the good players skinning us and without the wanna be players constantly whinging at us lol. Its not easy entering a £5 tourney knowing you have no chance. An I don't want to learn variance, set mining, 3 bets,C-Bets,etc, I want to play for 20p. But from comments made so far Skypoker not a approprate place for penny tourneys and the "comunty" don't want them, plus they can be played else where. Posted by OHIMGOOD
have you got no interest in becoming a better player then were you can compete and make cashes in the £5.50 games??? if money isnt why you play poker then why not just enter the daily free rolls which sky run!! anyway thats my final say on the matter, bedtime cos its time get wrecked at the marratime festival 2moro, see if i can put a whole in some of these poker winnings!!! ;-)
In Response to Re: Cheap Buyin tournaments. : I understand Pennys tournaments might not make big money for Sky but it gets players on the site. Also, this place can be quite harsh to new/not so good players. Trying to play for fun and getting called DONK/FISH everytime you win is a pain. Especially when the guy calling it ya is on a 2 year long losing streak. So in a lower priced tournaments me and my fellow donk's can play happliy without the good players skinning us and without the wanna be players constantly whinging at us lol. Its not easy entering a £5 tourney knowing you have no chance. An I don't want to learn variance, set mining, 3 bets,C-Bets,etc, I want to play for 20p. But from comments made so far Skypoker not a approprate place for penny tourneys and the "comunty" don't want them, plus they can be played else where. Posted by OHIMGOOD
tbh mate from lurking in these forums for a while i have learnt that most suggestions seem to be dismissed in an elitist manner, be it software improvements, security concerns or game changes.
variance says that u can win a £5 tourney anyone can run like god a bink. the best thing i can suggest is play the freerolls or buy in short @ 4nl. or if u really dont care about the money just find somewhere that offers play money.
In Response to Re: Cheap Buyin tournaments. : tbh mate from lurking in these forums for a while i have learnt that most suggestions seem to be dismissed in an elitist manner, be it software improvements, security concerns or game changes. variance says that u can win a £5 tourney anyone can run like god a bink. the best thing i can suggest is play the freerolls or buy in short @ 4nl. or if u really dont care about the money just find somewhere that offers play money. Posted by TonyMT
Genuinely surprised by this comment, sorry you feel that way but we respectfully disagree. We wouldn't have a forum if this was the case. We want to hear (and do listen to) what people have to say on the forum.
A couple more 1.10 tourneys everynight 5 or 7min blinds since the 6.50 speed has gone. Even without a GTD bit like the PLO ones. What have sky to lose with no GTD. The 1.10 deepstack just takes too long i can only play this once a week.
A couple more 1.10 tourneys everynight 5 or 7min blinds since the 6.50 speed has gone. Even without a GTD bit like the PLO ones. What have sky to lose with no GTD. The 1.10 deepstack just takes too long i can only play this once a week. Posted by stuarty117
I agree with this post in a sense.
More £1.10 mtts of various formats can't be a bad thing
In Response to Re: Cheap Buyin tournaments. : I agree with this post in a sense. More £1.10 mtts of various formats can't be a bad thing Posted by The_Don90
People will play these i am sure of it. The roulette 60p ones can get over 30 runner just change the blinds to a bit more playable like 3mins. I like playing the 25quid GTD 1.10 at the weekend and they always break the GTD.
Also if people do well at these low Buy ins then they will put money in at a higher level so eventually it will go up the ladder.
Well, I tightened up my game played 2 60p DYM's won them both, They played like Poker once did iin the casino, if you're tight, patient and agressive on the weak players you'll win. But maybe it was just luck who knows. Would still like some low stake tourneys.No need to have £20GTD. I think they may be fun and popular.
Still had to fight the urge to "all in" with 9-6 suiited lol, or taking a pair of 3's down the street, reraising all the way lol.
In Response to Re: Cheap Buyin tournaments. : I agree with this post in a sense. More £1.10 mtts of various formats can't be a bad thing Posted by The_Don90
Yeah lol, sift through my nonsense and the essence of this post is a good idea, at least for a trial....
Do you think that 98% are losing players Don? I have absolutely no idea myself, just curious. Seems a very high figure Posted by Jac35
It doesn't really matter if 98% or 90% or 50% are losing, it matters how much you're losing. I enjoy poker and I'm happy to lose/play/win £20 maybe more a month. My Bro-inlaw is a movie buff and regulary buys new release bluerays for £20 a time. Its my entertainent,
I also realise many play and ca afford to lose £200 month and they are well catered for on here, but I will struggle with my skill level to get £20 to last me. Maybe I improve and increase my BR but its too difficult to start out on Sky. So maybe many stick with the site they start out on, and Sky really is an expensive way to learn poker online.
You have 10% skinning everyone else as the stakes are quite high.
A couple more 1.10 tourneys everynight 5 or 7min blinds since the 6.50 speed has gone. Even without a GTD bit like the PLO ones. What have sky to lose with no GTD. The 1.10 deepstack just takes too long i can only play this once a week. Posted by stuarty117
As a low stakes player I agree - additional tourneys around the £1 to £2 buyin level would be great. I would play these instead of DYM's as opportunity to win more and also likely to attract more users to the site with more low stakes stuff on offer.
The reason Skypoker does not and never will get the big numbers is because everyone thinks the site is a scam to make money. Add some small touneys, let them sit and fill slowly and watch the numbers increase. Sky is a good brand but currently Skypoker is not good for the brand, Add some small stacks tourneys, and sit an goes. It does appear Sky want to keep their current user base at all costs, and checking Sharkscope tells you why. Its full of users happy to lose £2000 a year. Try to get the small stakes players in. The site numbers will double/tripple when word gets out Sky has 5p 10p 20p games. A lot of online players don't like Skys "close" community and the same names winning time after time. Go on 888 theres thousand and thousands of players fromt the UK, Mention Sky to them and see what they have to say. Sky is meant to be good for its communtiy advice? I'v seen users who have lost thousands giving advice to players struggling. The advice is BET BIGGER ON THAT TURN...Yea and lose bigger. Lets get some nice small easy to play 20p 50 seat sit and goes. Posted by OHIMGOOD
I hate to be so painfully blunt, but this is just absolute drivel.
Everything itt from OP just seems to be conjecture. His own interpretation of Sky and its' player base, is just him making wild assumptions to make his PoV seem more favourable.
You state that people come here for the community, but go on to say that it sucks and is seen as a joke by other sites, because the forum has a few recreational players giving (iyo) bad advice. The two are unrelated, as one can have a stellar community made up of entirely recreational players.
You then (for some bizarre reason) decide to attack losing players, and have an extremely pretentious tone, undermining everyone because you've used SharkScope and get to see who's +/- SharkScope is nothing new, everyone knows about it, and everyone who wants to use it will have already done so. You are point-blank childish, calling forum members out that are in a downswing, or have lost money recently. If you're a solid player, you should know to never berate recreational players, as they're obviously here for fun. If you also play poker as a hobby, then you're just coming across as patronising and inconsiderate, trying to one-up everyone. This isn't a playground, and no-one cares. If you really want to brag about how good you are, OR how bad everyone else is, how about we go play some 1kNL HU for your entire net worth and see whose sharkscope looks better after that?
Grow up. You attitude stinks, and your 'suggestions' are just self-invested opinions with no evidence to back up any of your claims.
For the record, the site contains an absurd amount of small stakes games (and freerolls too). The site (OBVIOUSLY) wants to make money like every poker site/business out there, and every single rigtard that complains about the RNG or some bs is 90%+ of the time, a Live player that sucks and prolly has an IQ less than 100.
In Response to Re: Cheap Buyin tournaments. : I hate to be so painfully blunt, but this is just absolute drivel. Everything itt from OP just seems to be conjecture. His own interpretation of Sky and its' player base, is just him making wild assumptions to make his PoV seem more favourable. You state that people come here for the community, but go on to say that it sucks and is seen as a joke by other sites, because the forum has a few recreational players giving (iyo) bad advice. The two are unrelated, as one can have a stellar community made up of entirely recreational players. You then (for some bizarre reason) decide to attack losing players, and have an extremely pretentious tone, undermining everyone because you've used SharkScope and get to see who's +/- SharkScope is nothing new, everyone knows about it, and everyone who wants to use it will have already done so. You are point-blank childish, calling forum members out that are in a downswing, or have lost money recently. If you're a solid player, you should know to never berate recreational players, as they're obviously here for fun. If you also play poker as a hobby, then you're just coming across as patronising and inconsiderate, trying to one-up everyone. This isn't a playground, and no-one cares. If you really want to brag about how good you are, OR how bad everyone else is, how about we go play some 1kNL HU for your entire net worth and see who's sharkscope looks better after that? Grow up. You attitude stinks, and your 'suggestions' are just self-invested opinions with no evidence to back up any of your claims. For the record, the site contains an absurd amount of small stakes games (and freerolls too). The site (OBVIOUSLY) wants to make money like every poker site/business out there, and every single rigtard that complains about the RNG or some bs is 90%+ of the time, a Live player that sucks and prolly has an IQ less than 100. Posted by Smitalos
RE-EDIT,
Thanks for taking the time to reply, you obviously feel very strongly, and I don't care, Now about those 20p tounaments.
In Response to Re: Cheap Buyin tournaments. : RE-EDIT, Thanks for taking the time to reply, you obviously feel very strongly, and I don't care, Now about those 20p tounaments. Posted by OHIMGOOD
Yes, it was a good idea to edit out the personal insults.
I feel strongly about putting an end to your condescending attitude over other members because you know how to use Sharkscope. Your argument is supposed to be about micro stakes games, but instead you've ranted on more than one occasion about completely unrelated topics. I can't even begin to describe how out of line your posts in this entire thread are, belittling losing/recreational players for what seems to be no reason whatsoever.
Construct your arguments on solid OBJECTIVE facts, and stop making it personal. Maybe then you'll get taken more seriously.
In Response to Re: Cheap Buyin tournaments. : Yes, it was a good idea to edit out the personal insults. I feel strongly about putting an end to your condescending attitude over other members because you know how to use Sharkscope. Your argument is supposed to be about micro stakes games, but instead you've ranted on more than one occasion about completely unrelated topics. I can't even begin to describe how out of line your posts in this entire thread are, belittling losing/recreational players for what seems to be no reason whatsoever. Construct your arguments on solid OBJECTIVE facts, and stop making it personal. Maybe then you'll get taken more seriously. Posted by Smitalos
I think you need to get out more, either that or go find someone who gives a toss about what you've got to say, An that is not me. You've got too much spare time, getting wound up and serious. Its Sat night, shouldn't you be out? It seems when I mentioned your £1500 loss on pokerstars(sharkscope) its struck a nerve. Well let it flow over you, relax, deep breath, anddddddddddddddddddddddd carrry on.
I also didn't know then that mentioning sharkscope stats was frowned upon at that point, feel free to check me out I'm £19 in the poo over 108 games at a loss of 19p a game average lol.
But the original sharkscope mention was...Some guy had been losing and was advised by someone else to BET BIGGER, the guy advising this was 2grand in poo. I just didn't think it was useful advice.
The advice maybe should of been, drop down in stakes, play small, play tight.
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So in a lower priced tournaments me and my fellow donk's can play happliy without the good players skinning us and without the wanna be players constantly whinging at us lol. Its not easy entering a £5 tourney knowing you have no chance. An I don't want to learn variance, set mining, 3 bets,C-Bets,etc, I want to play for 20p.
But from comments made so far Skypoker not a approprate place for penny tourneys and the "comunty" don't want them, plus they can be played else where.
variance says that u can win a £5 tourney
the best thing i can suggest is play the freerolls or buy in short @ 4nl.
or if u really dont care about the money just find somewhere that offers play money.
Also if people do well at these low Buy ins then they will put money in at a higher level so eventually it will go up the ladder.
Still had to fight the urge to "all in" with 9-6 suiited lol, or taking a pair of 3's down the street, reraising all the way lol.
It doesn't really matter if 98% or 90% or 50% are losing, it matters how much you're losing. I enjoy poker and I'm happy to lose/play/win £20 maybe more a month. My Bro-inlaw is a movie buff and regulary buys new release bluerays for £20 a time. Its my entertainent,
I also realise many play and ca afford to lose £200 month and they are well catered for on here, but I will struggle with my skill level to get £20 to last me. Maybe I improve and increase my BR but its too difficult to start out on Sky. So maybe many stick with the site they start out on, and Sky really is an expensive way to learn poker online.
You have 10% skinning everyone else as the stakes are quite high.
Everything itt from OP just seems to be conjecture. His own interpretation of Sky and its' player base, is just him making wild assumptions to make his PoV seem more favourable.
You state that people come here for the community, but go on to say that it sucks and is seen as a joke by other sites, because the forum has a few recreational players giving (iyo) bad advice. The two are unrelated, as one can have a stellar community made up of entirely recreational players.
You then (for some bizarre reason) decide to attack losing players, and have an extremely pretentious tone, undermining everyone because you've used SharkScope and get to see who's +/-
SharkScope is nothing new, everyone knows about it, and everyone who wants to use it will have already done so. You are point-blank childish, calling forum members out that are in a downswing, or have lost money recently. If you're a solid player, you should know to never berate recreational players, as they're obviously here for fun. If you also play poker as a hobby, then you're just coming across as patronising and inconsiderate, trying to one-up everyone. This isn't a playground, and no-one cares.
If you really want to brag about how good you are, OR how bad everyone else is, how about we go play some 1kNL HU for your entire net worth and see whose sharkscope looks better after that?
Grow up. You attitude stinks, and your 'suggestions' are just self-invested opinions with no evidence to back up any of your claims.
For the record, the site contains an absurd amount of small stakes games (and freerolls too). The site (OBVIOUSLY) wants to make money like every poker site/business out there, and every single rigtard that complains about the RNG or some bs is 90%+ of the time, a Live player that sucks and prolly has an IQ less than 100.
Thanks for taking the time to reply, you obviously feel very strongly, and I don't care, Now about those 20p tounaments.
I feel strongly about putting an end to your condescending attitude over other members because you know how to use Sharkscope. Your argument is supposed to be about micro stakes games, but instead you've ranted on more than one occasion about completely unrelated topics.
I can't even begin to describe how out of line your posts in this entire thread are, belittling losing/recreational players for what seems to be no reason whatsoever.
Construct your arguments on solid OBJECTIVE facts, and stop making it personal. Maybe then you'll get taken more seriously.
I also didn't know then that mentioning sharkscope stats was frowned upon at that point, feel free to check me out I'm £19 in the poo over 108 games at a loss of 19p a game average lol.
But the original sharkscope mention was...Some guy had been losing and was advised by someone else to BET BIGGER, the guy advising this was 2grand in poo. I just didn't think it was useful advice.
The advice maybe should of been, drop down in stakes, play small, play tight.