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Is this a correct/good call by my opponent?
profman15
Member Posts: 1,808
HI all,
FT of deepstack. Considering the size of the blinds, is this a good call to make considering he will probably have two live cards and i was the shortest stack at the table? I must admit i was a little surprised to see 75s as i'd not really seen chancy play by him before. It had been quite a long FT thus far, however. I wouldn't have called.
Do you find 5xbb push is best way here or just min raise? It certainly is a correct push for this stack size in this position but i see a lot of chancers with the likes of QTo calling and sucking out. Its as if the min raise gets more respect than the shove.I tend to find theres a lot of min raising pre and post by these stages which gets through unlike bigger buy-in T's
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceflungeSmall blind 3000.003000.00270064.36$$$Big blind 6000.009000.0056990.32 Your hole cards8A profman15All-in 31372.5040372.500.00gilly88Fold flungeFold $$$Call 25372.5065745.0031617.82$$$Show75 profman15Show8A Flop K65 Turn 10 River 6 $$$WinTwo Pairs, 6s and 5s65745.00 97362.82
Comments
Profman is pushing with 5 BB so he could have any 2 and the villain is getting the right odds to call hoping for 2 live cards.
Profman this is a standard push. You have 5 BB its 4 handed and you have an Ace. You are around a 61% fav to win hand. This is what you want at this stage with 5BB.
spec when hero is UTG and vill has 7 high - ya 64s is in shoving range !
Hero shoving range got vill beat - plus atc v atc vill has not got the price
prof...but you have an ace, you played it ok - well done - concentrate on the postives
we can't control what villians do, not worth worrying about
As the hand plays ( i understand he doesnt know he has 2 live cards so this is not a proper result) he is around 39% to win 40K from a 25K bet. I think over time you would win with these odds.
It might be marginal and stove might prove it wrong but in no way is it terrible.
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 64.012% 63.59% 00.42% 949540424 6238504.00 { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, QJs, A8o+, KQo }
Hand 1: 35.988% 35.57% 00.42% 531111656 6238504.00 { 75s }
Villian would have 35% V the above range so it is a losing call but some people like to gamble V shorties when they have a big stack.
If we have 5xBB on a FT we NEED to double, and if that means shoving A8o and someone calling with 57s, I'm happy to take it.
Minraising from 5xBB would be SOOO bad it's painful. If as you say people like to take a punt with QTo, let them, you're the one with the best hand, and at this stage you need to win a race. What would you do if you get shoved on and have put one third of your stack in? If the answer is call then it's WAY better to shove cos it's not strong enough to induce and you want max FE. If the answer is fold, that's baaaad.
Lamberts stove says he is around 35% when he needs I think 38% to win over time so in my mind its not awful just gambley.
but I stand corrected if someone shows up with the range v range equity share
Think we disagree on what hero shoving range is essentially, but I concede it may be closer than my knee jerk terrible call response
But think calling off nearly half your stack in this spot with 10 bigs is terrible
Why would you waste your precious time writing this just to put someone down?
Whats the point?
Because you like being rude to people?
To try and make others think you are funny?
I just don't get it.
So it was the other option then.