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Give me a break!!!!!!

davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
edited July 2013 in Brags, Beats and Variance
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
daveyput Small blind  500.00 500.00 20700.00
xxxx Big blind  1000.00 1500.00 26752.50
 Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
   
davelufc All-in  12820.00 14320.00 0.00
bugsytwo Fold     
farmerja30 Fold     
donnabelucky Fold     
daveyput Fold     
xxxx Call  11820.00 26140.00 14932.50
 Show
  • 9
  • 10
   
davelufc Show
  • Q
  • Q
   
Flop
  
  • A
  • 3
  • 4
   
Turn
  
  • 5
   
River
  
  • 2
   
xxxx Win Straight to the 5 13070.00  28002.50
davelufc Win Straight to the 5 13070.00  13070.00

 
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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited July 2013
    look on the Bright side you were able to get a split pot.
    the headlike makes it sound like a bad beat.
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  • davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Give me a break!!!!!!:
    look on the Bright side you were able to get a split pot. the headlike makes it sound like a bad beat.
    Posted by craigcu12
    Why should i be pleased with a split pot when i was dominating until the river??????

    Felt like a bad beat lolz!!
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  • calcalfoldcalcalfold Member Posts: 978
    edited July 2013
    Why open shove?

    Dont you know how to continue on an ace or king flop?
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2013
    Cos he has 12xBB. It's a pretty standard shove spot. Would you minraise 66 here? No you just ship your 12xBB, so you gotta do it with QQ too.

    Ul dave
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  • calcalfoldcalcalfold Member Posts: 978
    edited July 2013
    Yea, shove 66 is fine. But QQ has most hands dominated, so you gont "gotta do it" im all for a good raise then getting it in, barring an AKx flop
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2013
    So what you're saying is 'its easy to put me on a range, cos if I have a hand I quite like but don't love like 66 or AQ, I'll shove, but if I have a monster like QQ+ I'll just minraise'?

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  • ALANSK100ALANSK100 Member Posts: 234
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Give me a break!!!!!!:
    So what you're saying is 'its easy to put me on a range, cos if I have a hand I quite like but don't love like 66 or AQ, I'll shove, but if I have a monster like QQ+ I'll just minraise'?
    Posted by Lambert180
    dont matter what i do with q q it still goes down the other way lol
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Give me a break!!!!!!:
    So what you're saying is 'its easy to put me on a range, cos if I have a hand I quite like but don't love like 66 or AQ, I'll shove, but if I have a monster like QQ+ I'll just minraise'?
    Posted by Lambert180
    Basically this. Gotta keep that range as balanced as possible. Raising utg out of a />13bb stack should look pretty suspicious too and gives people the chance to fold hands they might otherwise go to war with.
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  • mewillowsmewillows Member Posts: 406
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Give me a break!!!!!!:
    So what you're saying is 'its easy to put me on a range, cos if I have a hand I quite like but don't love like 66 or AQ, I'll shove, but if I have a monster like QQ+ I'll just minraise'?
    Posted by Lambert180
    to throw a spanner in the works. could you min raise/fold marginal hands to look like monsters?
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2013
    Tbh, I don't mind minraise/folding from 13xBB against some opponents on Sky but I wouldn't be doing it UTG.
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  • calcalfoldcalcalfold Member Posts: 978
    edited July 2013
    Lambert, I understand what you are saying, and against a top quality field your quite right.

    But generally I was saying, put in a smaller raise and get more value from marginals that hit a lower top pair, sure you will get stacked some of the time. but its just what I would rather do.

    I mean, none of the hands that you are beating will fold, but many worse hands will call.

    I doubt that many are paying attention, and the ones that do, well, you will generally know their names.
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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Give me a break!!!!!!:
    In Response to Re: Give me a break!!!!!! : Basically this. Gotta keep that range as balanced as possible. Raising utg out of a />13bb stack should look pretty suspicious too and gives people the chance to fold hands they might otherwise go to war with.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    to add even more reason for the shove right away.
    how are the rest of them chips going to get doubled if the flop was suited paired well connected or had K or A.
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  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited July 2013
    Trade off  is
    how much more action will you get with min raising
    vs how many potential stackers will you let off the hook
    don't think either route is inherently bad
    but table reads would help a lot in deciding optimality

    as for OP
    sympathies
    it is tedious to save the bad beat just to have the pot halved on the river
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  • davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
    edited July 2013
    Same tourney, 12 mins later. Quite pleased this time after flop lolz!!!

    King of the splits!!!

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    PORKO Small blind 800.00 800.00 56402.50
    davelufc Big blind  1600.00 2400.00 7570.00
     Your hole cards
    • K
    • J
    		   
    xxxx Raise  3200.00 5600.00 48700.00
    bananas65 Fold     
    donnabelucky Fold     
    PORKO Fold     
    davelufc All-in  7570.00 13170.00 0.00
    xxxx Call  5970.00 19140.00 42730.00
    davelufc Show
    • K
    • J
    		   
    xxxx Show
    • 5
    • 7
    		   
    Flop
      
    • 5
    • 8
    • 4
    		   
    Turn
      
    • 6
    		   
    River
      
    • 7
    		   
    davelufc Win Straight to the 8 9570.00  9570.00
    xxxx Win Straight to the 8 9570.00  52300.00
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Give me a break!!!!!!:
    Why open shove? Dont you know how to continue on an ace or king flop?
    Posted by calcalfold
    Your plan is to just fold them?? Is this a joke?
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