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kings are the worst hand to have in MTT

craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
edited July 2013 in Brags, Beats and Variance
xSmall blind  20.00 20.00 5090.00
craigcu12 Big blind  40.00 60.00 1900.00
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
5ickas14 Fold     
loubear88 Call  40.00 100.00 1545.00
marr1ott Fold     
krstov Call  40.00 140.00 3095.00
xCall  20.00 160.00 5070.00
craigcu12 Raise  160.00 320.00 1740.00
loubear88 Call  160.00 480.00 1385.00
krstov Fold     
xCall  160.00 640.00 4910.00
Flop
   
  • A
  • 4
  • 9
     
xCheck     
craigcu12 Bet  320.00 960.00 1420.00
loubear88 Fold     
xCall  320.00 1280.00 4590.00
Turn
   
  • 5
     
xCheck     
craigcu12 Bet  640.00 1920.00 780.00
xAll-in  4590.00 6510.00 0.00
craigcu12 All-in  780.00 7290.00 0.00
xUnmatched bet  3170.00 4120.00 3170.00
xShow
  • Q
  • 5
   
craigcu12 Show
  • K
  • K
   
River
   
  • Q
     
xWin Two Pairs, Queens and 5s 4120.00  7290.00
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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited July 2013
    calling with complete air on the flop when their is already a higher card.
    listen mate if you were representing a set or A you need to learn that a raise on the flop would be best not the turn
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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited July 2013
    I actually think I prefer his play to your play
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2013
    To be fair, you might have been ahead this time and then he got lucky, but the turn is a fold imo.
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  • bbMikebbMike Member Posts: 3,720
    edited July 2013
    You lost your >45BB stack with KK going to an Ace-high flop 3-way.... no need for that really.

    If you think they're capable of calling flop to steal on the turn by all means continue again but I don't think you should be calling off the raise on the turn (although in isolation you were ahead). Main problem is the pot has got very big so you're betting 15BB on the turn, but folding still gives 20BB behind.
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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: do big bets in tournament when this villian is with you:
    To be fair, you might have been ahead this time and then he got lucky, but the turn is a fold imo.
    Posted by Lambert180
    in spots like this would it have been best to just keep my bet low on the flop then check the turn?
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  • ALANSK100ALANSK100 Member Posts: 234
    edited July 2013
    i wonder if the villian did have the ace  would you still think it was bad play by him or yourself
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited July 2013
     love the headliine of the post

    do big bets in tournament when this villian is with you


    only one problem with that is  we dont have the faintest idea who the player is when his names edited out.
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: do big bets in tournament when this villian is with you:
     love the headliine of the post do big bets in tournament when this villian is with you only one problem with that is  we dont have the faintest idea who the player is when his names edited out.
    Posted by THEROCK573
    Have you never played with "x"?
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: do big bets in tournament when this villian is with you:
    In Response to Re: do big bets in tournament when this villian is with you : Have you never played with "x"?
    Posted by BorinLoner
    ive played with a lot of things in my time but never x.
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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited July 2013
    maybe I should have folded them pre because kings were just not winning even before drVj got me I was already bust by this gutter
    cath1990 Small blind  15.00 15.00 3252.50
    nicknat118 Big blind  30.00 45.00 1395.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    		     
    craigcu12 Raise  90.00 135.00 1030.00
    dawson63 Fold     
    chicknMelt Fold     
    juckscory Call  90.00 225.00 1353.75
    cath1990 Call  75.00 300.00 3177.50
    nicknat118 Call  60.00 360.00 1335.00
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • 7
    • 10
    		     
    cath1990 Check     
    nicknat118 Check     
    craigcu12 Bet  270.00 630.00 760.00
    juckscory Call  270.00 900.00 1083.75
    cath1990 Fold     
    nicknat118 Call  270.00 1170.00 1065.00
    Turn
       
    • J
    		     
    nicknat118 All-in  1065.00 2235.00 0.00
    craigcu12 All-in  760.00 2995.00 0.00
    juckscory Fold     
    nicknat118 Unmatched bet  305.00 2690.00 305.00
    nicknat118 Show
    • K
    • 9
    		   
    craigcu12 Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    River
       
    • J
    		     
    nicknat118 Win Straight to the King 2690.00  2995.00
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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited July 2013
    trevor1948 Small blind  30.00 30.00 3200.00
    alexsdad Big blind  60.00 90.00 2950.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    		     
    craigcu12 Raise  180.00 270.00 2030.00
    SNOOPY616_ Call  180.00 450.00 5905.00
    TheDogs-1 Call  180.00 630.00 885.00
    trevor1948 Fold     
    alexsdad Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 8
    • 6
    		     
    craigcu12 Bet  315.00 945.00 1715.00
    SNOOPY616_ All-in  5905.00 6850.00 0.00
    TheDogs-1 Fold     
    craigcu12 All-in  1715.00 8565.00 0.00
    SNOOPY616_ Unmatched bet  3875.00 4690.00 3875.00
    craigcu12 Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    SNOOPY616_ Show
    • 10
    • 8
    		   
    Turn
       
    • 2
    		     
    River
       
    • A
    		     
    SNOOPY616_ Win Two Pairs, 10s and 8s 4690.00  8565.00
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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited July 2013
    joepr Small blind  20.00 20.00 2962.50
    NOSEBAG564 Big blind  40.00 60.00 1960.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    		     
    R0C066 Call  40.00 100.00 1720.00
    craigcu12 Raise  160.00 260.00 2890.00
    peterplod Fold     
    joepr Fold     
    NOSEBAG564 Fold     
    R0C066 Call  120.00 380.00 1600.00
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • J
    • 9
    		     
    R0C066 Check     
    craigcu12 Bet  285.00 665.00 2605.00
    R0C066 Call  285.00 950.00 1315.00
    Turn
       
    • 6
    		     
    R0C066 Check     
    craigcu12 All-in  2605.00 3555.00 0.00
    R0C066 All-in  1315.00 4870.00 0.00
    craigcu12 Unmatched bet  1290.00 3580.00 1290.00
    R0C066 Show
    • 9
    • 9
    		   
    craigcu12 Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    River
       
    • 7
    		     
    R0C066 Win Three 9s 3580.00  3580.00
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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited July 2013
    JHEROCALLH Small blind  30.00 30.00 880.00
    NOSEBAG564 Big blind  60.00 90.00 3165.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    		     
    R0C066 Call  60.00 150.00 2710.00
    craigcu12 Raise  240.00 390.00 1680.00
    peterplod Fold     
    JHEROCALLH Fold     
    NOSEBAG564 Fold     
    R0C066 Call  180.00 570.00 2530.00
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • A
    • 3
    		     
    R0C066 Bet  570.00 1140.00 1960.00
    craigcu12 Call  570.00 1710.00 1110.00
    Turn
       
    • 7
    		     
    R0C066 All-in  1960.00 3670.00 0.00
    craigcu12 Fold     
    R0C066 Muck     
    R0C066 Win  1710.00  1710.00
    R0C066 Return  1960.00 0.00 3670.00
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2013
    Don't call the flop the fold the turn, just a complete waste of chips. If you think he has Ax, fold the flop (I would to a pot sized bet), if you don't think he has Ax, why are you folding the turn?
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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited July 2013

    I can see your point and true I should of called the turn because if he has hit the flop then why bet here yet check the set.

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  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited July 2013
    they might be returning good again now
    craigcu12 Small blind  40.00 40.00 1510.00
    gareth1207 Big blind  80.00 120.00 4430.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    		     
    john1215 Fold     
    TENBAG14 Call  80.00 200.00 875.00
    LUSHKA76 Call  80.00 280.00 18590.00
    scooby125 Fold     
    craigcu12 Raise  360.00 640.00 1150.00
    gareth1207 Call  320.00 960.00 4110.00
    TENBAG14 Call  320.00 1280.00 555.00
    LUSHKA76 Call  320.00 1600.00 18270.00
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • K
    • 7
    		     
    craigcu12 Check     
    gareth1207 Check     
    TENBAG14 Check     
    LUSHKA76 Bet  1600.00 3200.00 16670.00
    craigcu12 All-in  1150.00 4350.00 0.00
    gareth1207 Fold     
    TENBAG14 Fold     
    LUSHKA76 Unmatched bet  450.00 3900.00 17120.00
    craigcu12 Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    LUSHKA76 Show
    • 7
    • Q
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  • BURNShurtzBURNShurtz Member Posts: 1,005
    edited July 2013
    In Response to maybe they have stopped:
    they might be returning good again now craigcu12 Small blind   40.00 40.00 1510.00 gareth1207 Big blind   80.00 120.00 4430.00   Your hole cards K K       john1215 Fold         TENBAG14 Call   80.00 200.00 875.00 LUSHKA76 Call   80.00 280.00 18590.00 scooby125 Fold         craigcu12 Raise   360.00 640.00 1150.00 gareth1207 Call   320.00 960.00 4110.00 TENBAG14 Call   320.00 1280.00 555.00 LUSHKA76 Call   320.00 1600.00 18270.00 Flop     3 K 7       craigcu12 Check         gareth1207 Check         TENBAG14 Check         LUSHKA76 Bet   1600.00 3200.00 16670.00 craigcu12 All-in   1150.00 4350.00 0.00 gareth1207 Fold         TENBAG14 Fold         LUSHKA76 Unmatched bet   450.00 3900.00 17120.00 craigcu12 Show K K       LUSHKA76 Show 7 Q
    Posted by craigcu12
    Good.
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