So, what would you put as the number one tell that the player sitting next to you has grey matter capacity on par with that of an aphid? 1) Shipping all in at a pot where the board plays the mortal nuts. Posted by calcalfold
They posted on the forum putting down the opponents that made their bread and butter!
So, what would you put as the number one tell that the player sitting next to you has grey matter capacity on par with that of an aphid? 1) Not shipping all in at a pot where the board plays the mortal nuts. Posted by calcalfold
In Response to The biggest donkey giveaways : They posted on the forum putting down the opponents that made their bread and butter! Posted by DUNMIDOSH
If you intend mocking somebody, you really need to get the phrase right.
The correct phrase in this instance should be
"They post on the forum putting down the opponents who are their bread and butter!"
Whereas you said, something to the effect of "putting down players that bring them carbohydrate based savoury snacks". And I sure as **** would not dream of berating any man/woman that were to bring me foodstuffs.
Fancy getting something as simple as that wrong, I mean, you would like quite the fool!.......
In Response to Re: The biggest donkey giveaways : If you intend mocking somebody, you really need to get the phrase right. The correct phrase in this instance should be "They post on the forum putting down the opponents who are their bread and butter!" Whereas you said, something to the effect of "putting down players that bring them carbohydrate based savoury snacks". And i sure as **** would not dream of berating any man/woman that were to bring me foodstuffs. Fancy getting something as simple as that wrong, I mean, you would like quite the fool!....... Posted by calcalfold
Doughnuts would be my preference! but thanks for the tip! I'll try harder with my grammar and vocabulary, next time lol
The guy who never ever stops ranting on about other players being bad. Obviously that would be a really stupid thing to do. Maybe that guy. Posted by Jac35
If you are (incorrectly) referring to me, then you clearly have no idea whatsoever what "rant" means, allow me to clarify courtesy of our pals at Google.
Rant
v.rant·ed, rant·ing, rants
v.intr.
To speak or write in an angry or violent manner; rave.
v.tr.
To utter or express with violence or extravagance: a dictator who ranted his vitriol onto a captive audience.
n.
1. Violent or extravagant speech or writing.
2. A speech or piece of writing that incites anger or violence: "The vast majority [of teenagers logged onto the Internet] did not encounter recipes for pipe bombs or deranged rants about white supremacy"(Daniel Okrent).
3. Chiefly British Wild or uproarious merriment.
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If you still believe my post is a rant, please clarify which aspects of it you deem to be violant/aggressive. Should you have said "derogatory" or perhaps even "insulting", then your point would have been credible, as such it is instead misguided.
In Response to Re: The biggest donkey giveaways : Doughnuts would be my preference! but thanks for the tip! I'll try harder with my grammar and vocabulary, next time lol Posted by DUNMIDOSH
The worst thing is you are over 18 and are wasting your time with this type of post. It is their money, call them what you want but they can do what they like with it.
I hope you realise how childish your posts come across.
Good luck at the felt, I am assuming you need it as you only ever seem to be getting it in good and losing.
The worst thing is you are over 18 and are wasting your time with this type of post. It is their money, call them what you want but they can do what they like with it. I hope you realise how childish your posts come across. Good luck at the felt, I am assuming you need it as you only ever seem to be getting it in good and losing. Kalie Posted by Batkin88
2nd grade punish, but great nonetheless.
inb4 thread turns into how much of a fish Calc is.
The worst thing is you are over 18 and are wasting your time with this type of post. It is their money, call them what you want but they can do what they like with it. I hope you realise how childish your posts come across. Good luck at the felt, I am assuming you need it as you only ever seem to be getting it in good and losing. Kalie Posted by Batkin88
Oh lighten up, just intersted in hearing peoples thoughts Mr Grumpy. Although not yours, obviously.
And those who care do not matter, and those who matter do not care.
If it's cash and the board is like KQJTx (no FD) and it's 100% obvious that you both hold an ace for the nuts and yet they still make some massive overbet shove into a tiny pot, then yeh that's pretty annoying. Just think of all them points you get for them forcing you to pay another £1 of rake tho lol
It was cash, the board was TJQKA (not sure what order & no flush possible). The pot was about 40p and the first to act goes all in on the river for about £3. The other player called, when thinking about it, they might have actually been better off folding, due to rake. Alas, the ship was just bizarre.
I mean yes it was 4nl, but it was totally bizarre. This post was purely set out to ask what moves other players consider the sighn of a poor player.
Of course I am not allowed to talk about "bad players" as it is against the human rights of the multicultural ethnically diverse lesbians. And I will, quite rightly, be banged up in some Cuban jail, perhaps after being hung drawn and quatered.
Its interesting, If I had said at the start of this thread just: "What do you consider traits of weak poker players" then I am sure a few people would have given examples, rather than everybody going off on one about how I am a disgrace to the species!
Its all about presentation with you lot. It sickens me!
Hi Lambert, It was worse than that. It was cash, the board was TJQKA (not sure what order & no flush possible). The pot was about 40p and the first to act goes all in on the river for about £3. The other player called, when thinking about it, they might have actually been better off folding, due to rake. Alas, the ship was just bizarre. I mean yes it was 4nl, but it was totally bizarre. This post was purely set out to ask what moves other players consider the sighn of a poor player. Of course I am not allowed to talk about "bad players" as it is against the human rights of the multicultural ethnically diverse lesbians. And I will, quite rightly, be banged up in some Cuban jail, perhaps after being hung drawn and quatered. Its interesting, If I had said at the start of this thread just: "What do you consider traits of weak poker players" then I am sure a few people would have given examples, rather than everybody going off on one about how I am a disgrace to the species! Its all about presentation with you lot. It sickens me! Posted by calcalfold
The biggest donkeys would have been those who folded, thereby making the move +ev.
Hi Lambert, It was worse than that. It was cash, the board was TJQKA (not sure what order & no flush possible). The pot was about 40p and the first to act goes all in on the river for about £3. The other player called, when thinking about it, they might have actually been better off folding, due to rake. Alas, the ship was just bizarre. I mean yes it was 4nl, but it was totally bizarre. This post was purely set out to ask what moves other players consider the sighn of a poor player. Of course I am not allowed to talk about "bad players" as it is against the human rights of the multicultural ethnically diverse lesbians. And I will, quite rightly, be banged up in some Cuban jail, perhaps after being hung drawn and quatered. Its interesting, If I had said at the start of this thread just: "What do you consider traits of weak poker players" then I am sure a few people would have given examples, rather than everybody going off on one about how I am a disgrace to the species! Its all about presentation with you lot. It sickens me! Posted by calcalfold
In the specific circumstance described.....
Doesn't this make the shove good then?
Good against plonkers who haven't got a clue, because they don't have to fold very often to make it profitable, and some people will fold.
Good against thinking players who'll realise that calling is -ev.
Aaaah here we go, a bit of debate, and some very good points raised.
Also rather interestingly, this is a very specific situation where it is (perhaps) profitable to be out of position on this river.
As Doh has stated, the first to act has the opportunity to consider if the second player can reason out a fold to save themselves rake money, or is forced to fold as they dont know its a split pot.
However, stab in the dark numbers, I would say the % of players at Sky, that would see a +ve fold based on rake might be 5% and the players so bad they dont know its a split pot, might also be in the 5% range
On the basis of my maths, and the guesstimate that only 10% will fold, leads me to deduce that on balance a check would still be best. As the anyone in between will be imo circa 90% of the player base at 4nl
If im playing live and the board has the nuts on it, then i always shove for a laugh haha, just to make sure other people around me are concentrating and notice that it will be a split pot
But online, yeah it is annoying when people do that, i just call anyway, i'm not bothered about rake because of the points i'd get.
I remember one hand i had AQ on a AAQxx board, opponent bets like all of his stack apart from 2p left over, i just call thinking that the rake would be more if i had raised it (would have to be a min raise to like $3 or something), is that the right play? I still don't really 100% understand rake to be honest lol.
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The guy who never ever stops ranting on about other players being bad.
Obviously that would be a really stupid thing to do.
Maybe that guy.
The correct phrase in this instance should be
"They post on the forum putting down the opponents who are their bread and butter!"
Whereas you said, something to the effect of "putting down players that bring them carbohydrate based savoury snacks". And I sure as **** would not dream of berating any man/woman that were to bring me foodstuffs.
Fancy getting something as simple as that wrong, I mean, you would like quite the fool!.......
but thanks for the tip!
I'll try harder with my grammar and vocabulary, next time lol
If you are (incorrectly) referring to me, then you clearly have no idea whatsoever what "rant" means, allow me to clarify courtesy of our pals at Google.
Rant
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If you still believe my post is a rant, please clarify which aspects of it you deem to be violant/aggressive. Should you have said "derogatory" or perhaps even "insulting", then your point would have been credible, as such it is instead misguided.
Regards
Ccf
No worries, just so long as we are clear on this.
Peace
The worst thing is you are over 18 and are wasting your time with this type of post. It is their money, call them what you want but they can do what they like with it.
I hope you realise how childish your posts come across.
Good luck at the felt, I am assuming you need it as you only ever seem to be getting it in good and losing.
Kalie
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inb4 thread turns into how much of a fish Calc is.
And those who care do not matter, and those who matter do not care.
If it's cash and the board is like KQJTx (no FD) and it's 100% obvious that you both hold an ace for the nuts and yet they still make some massive overbet shove into a tiny pot, then yeh that's pretty annoying. Just think of all them points you get for them forcing you to pay another £1 of rake tho
Also advising me to lighten up, please read your prior posts. Lets get the dictionary out and define words to try and come across as intellectual.
I hate losing as much as the next guy/girl and I have had my fair share of outbursts, but come on mate get a grip.
It was worse than that.
It was cash, the board was TJQKA (not sure what order & no flush possible). The pot was about 40p and the first to act goes all in on the river for about £3. The other player called, when thinking about it, they might have actually been better off folding, due to rake. Alas, the ship was just bizarre.
I mean yes it was 4nl, but it was totally bizarre. This post was purely set out to ask what moves other players consider the sighn of a poor player.
Of course I am not allowed to talk about "bad players" as it is against the human rights of the multicultural ethnically diverse lesbians. And I will, quite rightly, be banged up in some Cuban jail, perhaps after being hung drawn and quatered.
Its interesting, If I had said at the start of this thread just: "What do you consider traits of weak poker players" then I am sure a few people would have given examples, rather than everybody going off on one about how I am a disgrace to the species!
Its all about presentation with you lot. It sickens me!
Also rather interestingly, this is a very specific situation where it is (perhaps) profitable to be out of position on this river.
As Doh has stated, the first to act has the opportunity to consider if the second player can reason out a fold to save themselves rake money, or is forced to fold as they dont know its a split pot.
However, stab in the dark numbers, I would say the % of players at Sky, that would see a +ve fold based on rake might be 5% and the players so bad they dont know its a split pot, might also be in the 5% range
On the basis of my maths, and the guesstimate that only 10% will fold, leads me to deduce that on balance a check would still be best. As the anyone in between will be imo circa 90% of the player base at 4nl
But online, yeah it is annoying when people do that, i just call anyway, i'm not bothered about rake because of the points i'd get.
I remember one hand i had AQ on a AAQxx board, opponent bets like all of his stack apart from 2p left over, i just call thinking that the rake would be more if i had raised it (would have to be a min raise to like $3 or something), is that the right play? I still don't really 100% understand rake to be honest lol.