20NL - Line Check w/ Trips

Lambert180

Sitting with the effective nuts, should I bet the turn smaller even though it probably looks stronger than a jam? Meh, just love jamming when they have a PSB left

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
neenor69	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£31.61
dolphins72	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£35.36
	Your hole cards	9 10
70theo	Raise		£0.60	£0.90	£18.10
Lambert180	Raise		£2.00	£2.90	£17.50
endofanera	Fold
X	Call		£2.00	£4.90	£15.60
neenor69	Fold
dolphins72	Fold
70theo	Call		£1.40	£6.30	£16.70
Flop
		9 7 5
70theo	Check
Lambert180	Bet		£3.30	£9.60	£14.20
X	Call		£3.30	£12.90	£12.30
70theo	Fold
Turn
		9
Lambert180	All-in		£14.20	£27.10	£0.00

Batkin88

If he calls the flop and considering the pre flop action I would put him on a big ace here or JJ TT at best so I would consider check raising him in or betting smaller to get him to shove or call with AK AQ type hands. Then obv shove any river regardless.

BigHawk89

The turn is just such a good card for us, i would consider checking.
If we were deeper id bet but cause he has a pot bet left behind id just check and see what he does. If hes bad he can turn up with all sorts of hands here.

yb

whats the reason for the 3bet pre?

i think you can bet smaller on the flop and i would definitely bet the turn smaller

jimb0d1

I would bet smaller and hope he jams his overpair.

NColley

3 bet pre is pretty lose mp vs utg, feel like if your 3 betting this then you're going to have too many 3 bet bluff combos compared to value and probably 3 betting hands that play better for just a call.

Actually think checking could be a good line to take for value on the turn. If hes floated you otf with a couple of broadway cards then he will feel inclined to make a stab at it alot. Protects your check/give up range a little bit too.

Lambert180

@YB -

1) It helps mix up my 3bet range in comparison to most people at this level where it's pretty much exclusively like TT+ and AK.

2) I generally do it V people who I know call 3bets and then check/fold flops too often

3) I am fairly confident that IP I can outplay villian postflop.

4) The old reason of when we flop big draws/big hands, it's more disguised as people don't expect most players to 3bet 9Ts. I'm also repping a very strong range 3betting an UTG open and can rep this through the streets if other's flat.

Yeah, I probably should have bet smaller on the turn. I think smaller looks stronger tbh but most players won't see it this way.

Lambert180

In Response to Re: 20NL - Line Check w/ Trips:

3 bet pre is pretty lose mp vs utg, feel like if your 3 betting this then you're going to have too many 3 bet bluff combos compared to value and probably 3 betting hands that play better for just a call. Actually think checking could be a good line to take for value on the turn. If hes floated you otf with a couple of broadway cards then he will feel inclined to make a stab at it alot. Protects your check/give up range a little bit too.
Posted by NColley

Good shout with this point.

yb

In Response to Re: 20NL - Line Check w/ Trips:

@YB - 1) It helps mix up my 3bet range in comparison to most people at this level where it's pretty much exclusively like TT+ and AK. 2) I generally do it V people who I know call 3bets and then check/fold flops too often 3) I am fairly confident that IP I can outplay villian postflop. 4) The old reason of when we flop big draws/big hands, it's more disguised as people don't expect most players to 3bet 9Ts. I'm also repping a very strong range 3betting an UTG open and can rep this through the streets if other's flat. Yeah, I probably should have bet smaller on the turn. I think smaller looks stronger tbh but most players won't see it this way.
Posted by Lambert180

i agree with lots of your reasoning to 3bet pre, but i'd be much more inclined to do it in later position when we're going to have absolute position and also less likely to see a cold 4bet

betting smaller is normally pretty good in 3bet pots imo as the spr is smaller so can get stacks in easier, and when you're 3betting lighter you want to be able to make your bluffs on the flop/turn as cheap as possible

Lambert180

Cheers YB. I need to get that on a post it note or something! People always tell me to bet smaller in 3bet pots and I always forget.

jams88

i like the 3bet pre having just started to play this level again it hink your resoning for 3betting is sount there are alot of call 3bet check give uppers at nl20

In regards to the turn bet i think the jam represents what you were trying to represent in the begining a large PP i prefer a smaller bet £5-6 and let him come along with his 1 pair hands hoping hes doing the old i put you on AK and calling with a smaller pair