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Does he always have Ace here?!
mrdavies
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| mrdavies | Small blind | £0.25 | £0.25 | £93.41 | |
| sighcall | Big blind | £0.50 | £0.75 | £45.08 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| 60nine60 | Fold | ||||
| mrdavies | Raise | £1.75 | £2.50 | £91.66 | |
| sighcall | Call | £1.50 | £4.00 | £43.58 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| mrdavies | Bet | £3.00 | £7.00 | £88.66 | |
| sighcall | Call | £3.00 | £10.00 | £40.58 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| mrdavies | Check | ||||
| sighcall | Check | ||||
| River | |||||
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| mrdavies | Bet | £7.50 | £17.50 | £81.16 | |
| sighcall | All-in | £40.58 | £58.08 | £0.00 | |
| mrdavies | Fold | ||||
| sighcall | Muck | ||||
| sighcall | Win | £23.75 | £23.75 | ||
| sighcall | Return | £33.08 | £1.25 | £56.83 | |
Comments
If he hasn't got A-spade I'll be astounded
We're unlikely to be value betting stuff like AQ or even sets on a 4flush board cos we won't get called by worse very often and even then we do it to bet/fold so villian shoving would be pointless, so I think Js is a call but not loving life, he won't be value shoving wider and doubt he makes a massive bluff in such a tiny pot.
You've made a pretty standard value bet and he has shipped in a spot where imo it will always be for value and there are 0 value hands worse than yours that would shove imo.
1) If he bets full pot or shoves, fold??
2) If he bets small? Do you just call?
3) If he checks back and you feel rather foolish when he shows Ts or Js?
Option 1 - This begs questions about what are we doing in the hand at all in terms of a plan. I imagine we check the turn with the intention of calling a reasonable bet because we know our K-high flush will be good a decent amount of the time and we probably have non-spade A and K outs. Are you actually checking the turn to just check/fold? EDIT: Though I do prefer barrelling the turn.
Option 2 - is fair enough
Option 3 - these hands call a bet, but they don't shove themselves cos they can never get called by worse. So we can bet/fold knowing we're getting value from worse but when we face a shove it's always a better hand.
b/f obviously unless you think vill is bluffing-_-
Turns out he had the Ace as I was on a table with him since and he had seen this post!
(well atleast I assume he werent lying to me lol)
@ hhyftrftdr: Sure, villain can shove knowing that unless we have the As we can't call. And if villain was a standard abc (nit) then it will no doubt work and be profitable in a vacuum. However, poker isn't played in a vacuum and if we are good, we'll soon pick up reads on players. Meaning that as a villain we can't just always make this play with ATC as Hero will pick up on that and be bet/calling with his Ks. Someone really good might even then decide to bet/call with Ts because villain is only ever shoving with the As or a bluff and he will have more bluffs in his range then the As.